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Tuesday Coffee Break Notes

April 28th, 2009 by cooper

Dis­re­gar­ding, for now, a rant on com­mer­cial hog far­ming being morally con­dem­na­ble and pos­sibly dan­ge­rous to the envi­ron­ment, I’m curious as to why in, in 2009, we don’t have enough peo­ple or resour­ces to work on more than one flu vac­cine at a time. We’ve been making vac­ci­nes for how many years now? If anything this shows us there are defi­ni­tely some areas where those tri­llions of dollars spent in Iraq could have been bet­ter uti­li­zed. I mean trai­ning scien­tists and buil­ding more research labs might have been a good start, and we pro­bably could have done it for only a seve­ral billion dollars.

Spec­ter to switch to Democ­ra­tic party. There is no such thing as a Democ­rat or a Repu­bli­can. There are just politicians.

Best com­ment I’ve read on the web today:
“WAPO artic­les suck but I love rea­ding the comments.”

Cof­fee break is over. I have to go get my sum­mer sche­dule straigh­te­ned out and buy a decent antihistamine.

Peace and Pollen

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18 Responses to “Tuesday Coffee Break Notes”

  1. sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    Spec­ter will never switch. But he may lose to a neo­con of the worst order, after which a democ­rat will win that Senate seat. A win-win situation.

    As for hog farms… a pig swill by any other name still stinks! Fac­tory farms are not just “pos­sibly dan­ge­rous” to the envi­ron­ment. They are a clear and pre­sent dan­ger, and pollute wells for miles around with bac­te­ria and ammo­nia derivatives.

    sauerkraut’s last blog post..Penn State Fra­ter­ni­ties sna­red in pot ring arrests

  2. gNo Gravatar says:

    Fac­tory farms are an abo­mi­na­tion, seriously.
    YUP, POLITICIANS.

    great com­ment find.

    all good things (cof­fee breaks) must end

    g’s last blog post..Not for nothing

  3. DougNo Gravatar says:

    Brer Kraut, Spec­ter switched today, didn’t he?

    Doug’s last blog post..Yoke

  4. the amoebaNo Gravatar says:

    Money spent on current flu-vaccine tech­no­lo­gies and pro­duc­tion would pro­bably be money was­ted. The pro­blem is that influenza viru­ses mutate more quickly than the six months now nee­ded to bring a vac­cine to mar­ket, and it’s not now pos­si­ble either to pre­dict what muta­tions are likely to hap­pen (for exam­ple, the one(s) that allo­wed the current swine flu both to jump to peo­ple from pigs and to be trans­mis­si­ble from per­son to per­son) or to design/produce vac­ci­nes that cope with all rele­vant pos­si­bi­li­ties — which would inc­rease the resour­ces nee­ded, and their costs, by seve­ral orders of mag­ni­tude. We would pay huge amounts of money for something that doesn’t work (most flu vac­ci­nes, in fact, don’t work). Don’t we get enough of that from MicroSoft?

    Money is most nee­ded to fund research on ways to improve the effec­ti­ve­ness of vac­ci­nes and shor­ten their pro­duc­tion times. For a pro­duct with almost no shelf life and, the­re­fore, very limi­ted pro­fit poten­tial espe­cially in a reces­sion, this money is hard to come by. Ask We the Peo­ple for it, and you’ll get tea par­ties. I mean, my God, if We pay for it, one of those ille­gal Mexi­cans might get it.

    The Roman Empe­ror Cali­gula named his horse to the Senate. It per­for­med bet­ter than most of the incum­bents. Not to men­tion the Emperor.

    the amoeba’s last blog post..Is This What They Mean By ‘Mar­bled Meat’?

    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      Do you have a horse you’d like to volun­teer Amoeba?
      That’s what I mean though, tri­llions could have been spent on spee­ding up the pro­cess surely the whole deve­lo­ping vac­cine thing could be more expe­dient for a few trillion.

  5. AngelaNo Gravatar says:

    The thing about the flu vac­cine, is that it’s made every year. The flu bug is cons­tantly evol­ving, so phar­ma­cists can’t just for­mu­late one vac­cine to take care of it. And these crazy flu bugs (bird flu, swine flu) are ones that are much MORE resis­tant to vac­ci­nes, and the flu would pro­bably just run its course before a vac­cine for it COULD be made.

    Angela’s last blog post..Ask me ANYTHING.

    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      Yea, Like I sad and amoeba hin­ted at the pro­cess has not sped up in some time and we are now in 2009 the pro­cess should be much fas­ter and pro­bably could be if the money were spent on it ins­tead of war.
      I mean I’m thin­king Star Wars here, maybe one day the flu, a week later a vac­cine, that should be in the realm of pos­si­bi­lity in the 21st century.

  6. Paul MaldenNo Gravatar says:

    “There is no such thing as a Democ­rat or a Repu­bli­can. There are just politicians.”

    That’s pro­bably the sin­gle most impor­tant thing we all need to know. Other than what’s on t.v. on a given night.

  7. johnNo Gravatar says:

    WAPO is major suc­kage some­ti­mes. Spector’s defec­tion, for his own self inte­rest, should tem­per some of this right and left arguing. It’s all the same, it’s only the dres­sing which changes.

    The amoeba is right the money is nee­ded to help figure out how to do this stuff quic­ker, a tri­llion would have gone along way to help in this.

    john’s last blog post..Dar­fur Reads