We’ve Backed Your Ass Against The Wall, We Take Whats Yours, We Got Gall, Bye Bye Comments

I’m pro­bably months late on this, I’m a policy geek not a inter­net tech geek, and I don’t get to read my inter­net tech feeds that often.

I found backtype this week, thanks to a link from Sim­plif­ying Your World at Pen­tad. I’m sure backtype is popu­lar. I have seen peo­ple oozing spittle in exci­te­ment over it on some blogs. This site coa­gu­la­tes com­ments of whoe­ver they can, and gathers them up, telling you it allows you to keep track of your com­ments and the com­ments of others around the blo­gesphere. They spin it as an oppor­tu­nity. What they really do is scrap your com­ments, and repro­duce them, I’m gues­sing for pro­fit, though they haven’t exactly admit­ted to that anywhere I can see, spin­ning it as a great big advan­tage to you. Tech­ni­cally they are doing is stea­ling your com­ments, saying they are doing only what Goo­gle and Yahoo already do. To my know­ledge Goo­gle and Yahoo do not repro­duce con­tent, and the other pla­ces that do, do it with your permission.

What it really does is allow peo­ple to stalk you. So now some freaky dude from Ken­tucky can search my name and come up with four hun­dred or so com­ments I’ve pos­ted all over the web, vir­tually stal­king me. You too most likely. All this, and they do it without your sig­ning up, like you have to do with other com­ment sys­tems. How gra­cious of them to save you the time.

Frankly I’m not sure who owns com­ments, and it’s not like most of us don’t hustle judi­ciously around cyber-space every now and then beg­ging for atten­tion, but to me this seems a little inva­sive, and pos­sibly a little unethi­cal. Shouldn’t I have a choice as to whether I want to be stal­ked or not? Ah, but they say if you want to opt out you just have to make a robot text file, I don’t hap­pen to have one, and disa­llow their user agent. Now why should I have to disa­llow someone from taking my com­ments? Shouldn’t it be they should ask me if they can use them? And what about those peo­ple who don’t know how to add a robot text file to their blog ins­ta­lla­tion? What about free blogs? I mean can you even block their user agent on free non self hos­ted blogs without bloc­king all robots? Not to men­tion there is nothing you can do about your com­ments on blogs which allow them. So in rea­lity you do not have con­trol of your com­ments throughout the blo­gesphere at all, even if you decide to block their robot from your blog.

My other ques­tion is, are they doing this for pro­fit? I saw a ques­tion asked at their blog about that but it did not appear to be ans­we­red, and I unders­tand they recently got a 300,000 dollar grant from a com­pany that’s inves­ting in start-up businesses.…sounds like a pro­fit maker to me.

Am I mis­sing something here? Is this more than a type of com­ment splog?

Yea, in case you don’t get the title, you can sing it to the tune of “Bye Bye Black­bird” this ver­sion is a play on the very sick ver­sion called “Bye Bye Cherry”. Don’t ask.

peac

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20 Comments

  • I hadn’t heard of that and still don’t get it. My first reac­tion is that if someone can make a pro­fit from my com­ments, they can pro­bably make a big­ger pro­fit con­ver­ting corn cobs into gold.

    Doug’s last blog post..Lac­teal Fluid

    • One of the few whose com­ments are wroth anything I’d say you are. But I have a nice group of com­men­ter here not the stan­dard by any means. I should take note and start pro­fi­ting from you all.

  • Actually some­body could make a pro­fit from Doug’s com­ments. Mine shouldn’t bring a woo­den nic­kel. I have always dele­ted spling – thought of cop­ying “the best of” – wrong names they call me and my blog, but no never knew about this

    pia’s last blog post..3WW – allure, perch, vivid: A pre­quel to mee­ting Jeffrey

    • Someone is pro­bably stea­ling your com­ments to write a book as I type. Now wouldn’t that just piss you off?

  • You’re awe­some. Thanks for sprea­ding this info along! I’ll place this link in my post as an update. Bac­klink stinks splog, and it’s irri­ta­ting when they try to make it look ‘oh so’ Twitter-like. There’s not an ori­gi­nal idea bet­ween these two kids. $300,000????? Holy, %&*#!! Scam from begin­ning to end. I’m afraid that com­pany got screwed.

    Pentad’s last blog post..Rela­ying an alert to blog­gers regar­ding the site http://www.backtype.com

  • scra­pers suck. no other way to say it. allow one ping-back from a scra­per and it grows chil­dren. but if scra­per ping-backs are con­sis­tently disa­llo­wed, they magi­cally disappear.

    until you dis­co­ver that they are sud­denly appea­ring on old, really old, posts. then it begins anew.

    I agree with the wiki entry under splogs. it’s copy­right infrin­ge­ment. there’s no fair use invol­ved. at best, it’s pla­gia­rism. a rose by any other name. …

    sauerkraut’s last blog post..Run­ning on your new Col­bert (Com­bi­ned Ope­ra­tio­nal Load Bea­ring Exter­nal Resis­tance) Treadmill

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  • Looks like they’ve con­vin­ced peo­ple it’s a really cool almost social net­work, but it does look a little sus­pect and it is scarping/splog like because of the no per­mis­sion fac­tor. I totally agree with you on the stal­king angle. I’ve been stal­ked before via cell phone, it’s not fun.
    On a free word­press blog there is no con­trol over that I don’t think.

    g’s last blog post..Life is a Bitch

  • It’s all about the spin — what a fool believes.

    I don’t find myself over there, should I be insul­ted or gra­te­ful.
    I see it’s stal­ker poten­tial and I thought repro­du­cing con­tent was illegal?

    • Who knows I think it’s unethi­cal and it is stea­ling but peo­ple are so willing to do anything to get one extra rea­der they don’t care. It will be inte­res­ting to see if this beco­mes pro­fi­ta­ble because if it does and my com­ments are there without my permission.….I’m sure I’ll be a thou­san­daire. ;)

  • “it’s not like most of us don’t hustle judi­ciously around cyber space every now and then beg­ging for atten­tion”. Nice one.

    You may hustle judi­ciously but most peo­ple hustle bla­tantly and indisc­ri­mi­na­tely, which is why they don’t care who is stea­ling their com­ments. It’s the only way to can get anyone to read them. Des­pe­rate times — des­pe­rate measures.

    The stal­king angle bites, and this is a sleazy, yet somewhat bri­lliantly sneaky, way to go about stea­ling con­tent, repro­du­cing it without per­mis­sions and making peo­ple believe they are doing you favors.

    john’s last blog post..I Love My Jeans

  • I’ve always assu­med that wha­te­ver is pos­ted on the net is there fore­ver and can be found by someone somewhere.

    The refe­rence about a guy in Ken­tucky stal­king you isn’t about me is it? :)

    Chris’s last blog post..Huge Tur­nout and the Tea Bag­ger Pur­pose (*Update)

    • Sure it’s out there, but not really avai­la­ble for others to use, though my blog gets scra­ped rou­ti­nely these guys are pro­fi­ting and redis­tri­bu­ting it without per­mis­sion not just pla­cing it in a search engine, and all the while they are pre­ten­ding to do me a favor. That and the stal­king thing.

      No not you, I chose a ran­dom state, not neces­sary the state peo­ple stalk me from. Actually I stop­ped loo­king at stats a long time ago.

      • I don’t think my com­ment sec­tion is as lively as yours. But I do agree I don’t want items on my blog redis­tri­bu­ted without my per­mis­sion. It’s been a while since I’ve been stal­ked, unless you count that wacko neo­con who keeps emai­ling me.

        Chris’s last blog post..All For High Speed Rail

  • I found some evi­dence that traf­fic on the backtype site is going down, so maybe the blo­gosphere is catching on. Lots of inte­res­ting IP ques­tions (I’ve pos­ted this com­ment on your blog, is it mine or yours … if you were ESPN, it would be yours, and ESPN says so up front). Bot­tom line is, if you don’t wish to give it away, don’t say it.

    Very sick. No I didn’t look it up, and I didn’t have prior expe­rience. Too easy to guess, though. The things that pass for know­ledge I can’t understand.

    the amoeba’s last blog post..Bet­ter One Than None

    • I always assu­med you own them unless I post a policy. Come to think of it as good as my com­men­ters are I should get right on that .…;)
      Steely Dan — I had to look that one up.