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I Know What I Know

February 19th, 2009 by cooper

Oh goody another study to tell us something we already know.

It may seem obvious that men per­ceive women in sexy bathing suits as objects, but now there’s science to back it up, one which used 21 hete­ro­se­xual male under­gra­dua­tes at Prin­ce­ton as the stan­dard bea­rer. That this “study” was actually pre­sen­ted at the Ame­ri­can Asso­cia­tion for the Advan­ce­ment of Science is what is sur­pri­sing, but there’s no doubt in my mind there was a preor­dai­ned conclusion.

As I unders­tand it pho­to­graphs make brains react in a variety of ways but unless a brain is still deve­lo­ping, as with young men vie­wing por­no­graphy before they’ve an unders­tan­ding of what a female is, and have lear­ned to know fema­les as human beings, it does not cause cer­tain actions to take place. Pho­to­graphy effects on emo­tion are not typi­cally longs­tan­ding, and cer­tainly not strong enough to over­come envi­ron­ment, words, or life­long edu­ca­tion. So why are we stud­ying reac­tions to pictures?

The research, con­duc­ted by Prin­ce­ton psycho­logy pro­fes­sor Susan Fiske, Mina Cikara GS and Stan­ford psycho­logy pro­fes­sor Jen­ni­fer Eberhardt, was per­for­med on 21 under­gra­duate male stu­dents at the Uni­ver­sity who iden­ti­fied them­sel­ves as hete­ro­se­xual. Fiske’s team used an MRI machine to scan the brains of the stu­dents while they vie­wed a series of pho­to­graphs of men and women, some of whom were fully clothed and others of whom wore only swimsuits.

The pic­tu­res of bikini-clad women acti­va­ted brain regions asso­cia­ted with objects or “things you mani­pu­late with your hands,” Fiske said. The stu­dents also remem­be­red the pho­tos of the half-naked women bet­ter than they did any of the others, she added, noting that the sub­jects remem­be­red the bodies, not the faces, most clearly. Fiske said the results indi­ca­ted that some men may objec­tify or dehu­ma­nize par­tially clothed women, though further research is nee­ded to con­firm these findings.

This study is use­ful for not a thing besi­des being able to say “nah, nah, I told you so”. And though it may help to make some take more serious the issue of young males vie­wing por­no­graphy on the web, something we already know seriously skews their view of women, but other than that do you really think most work pla­ces have pic­tu­res of half clothed women han­ging around? Does loo­king at a still pic­ture eli­cit the same res­ponse as loo­king at living breathing humans? Does loo­king at a girl in a bikini cause someone to go home and treat their girl­friend like a power tool if they weren’t already trea­ting her like a power tool? Does this study solve the issue of media and sexua­li­zing little girls, or parents buying their ten year olds thongs, make-up and bustiers?


“This research appears to pro­vide evi­dence of a more hard­wi­red, less socially cons­truc­ted ten­dency to objec­tify women, which will make era­di­ca­ting the pro­blem that much harder.”

Ya, well repla­cing parts of the brain isn’t that easy just yet. It seems we are up against something called “what human beings are made of” here. Do you think this was fun­ded by some orga­ni­za­tion which hopes to cash in on their “brain part repla­ce­ment therapy”?

Please no further research. I know what I know.

title thanks to Paul Simon, I Know What I Know

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23 Responses to “I Know What I Know”

  1. actonbellNo Gravatar says:

    It appears they could think of nothing bet­ter to do than per­form expen­sive MRIs and look at that Sports Illus­tra­ted issue.

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    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      It would be dif­fe­rent if they were actually going to cut out pie­ces of their brain to …uh.. alle­viate the pro­blem but they are not.

      It is worth it to know what these things do to “deve­lo­ping brains”, and if the chan­ges this kind of vie­wing has on “deve­lo­ping brains” is per­ma­nent, as the only use for stu­dies like this is to find out at which point something which may end up per­ma­nent beco­mes pre­ven­ta­ble, but this is not even close to being a study of that depth, mag­ni­tude or significance.

  2. jacobNo Gravatar says:

    Burp.

    There is no end to the stu­pi­dity or self inte­rest of the peo­ple who manage the funds for research at most uni­ver­si­ties. Bet­ween stu­dies which prove things we already know, and stu­dies which prove nothing, the money is gone.

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  3. sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    Men will be men and boys will be boys, but why is it that I never get asked to do these types of stu­dies??? It’s just not fair…

    Seriously, tho… study sounds about as scien­ti­fi­cally sound as the ones which seek to deter­mine whether under­wire bras cause breast cancer.

    No, seriously!

    sauerkraut’s last blog post..Robert Getz, dead.

  4. JOEGNo Gravatar says:

    I know what you know too. I wish they’d do research on things which really mat­ter. Research, espe­cially in the social scien­ces, is moti­va­ted by the agenda of those doing the research. From the little bit I can gather about that study it follo­wed that same pattern.

    I have never heard that Paul Simon song. Thanks.

    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      Almost has an “I know what you did last sum­mer” tone to it.…

      It’s an awe­some song it is my plea­sure to intro­duce you to it.

  5. piaNo Gravatar says:

    Ugh. The depart­ment of use­less research…Paul Simon ope­ned the newly reno­va­ted Bea­con Thea­ter last wee­kend. Had I still been living there.…but we couldn’t get tic­kets. Would have been wonderful

    pia’s last blog post..Hey Daddy

    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      It is pretty sad where the money is spent con­si­de­ring OC out at the U of Hawaii could bet­ter spend the money to help us in the future.

  6. gNo Gravatar says:

    I enjoy loo­king at women in bathing suits in real life. I don’t know the dif­fe­rence bet­ween the affects on the brain of pho­tos from real life peo­ple but I am sure there are dif­fe­ren­ces. Good for those who do the stu­dies, bad for us, maybe with the eco­nomy being so poor we will have to put up with less of these use­less studies.

    g’s last blog post..What I’m Rea­ding and Buying

  7. johnNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t self pro­mote but I think they should bet­ter spend their research dollars stud­ying the psycho­logy of the wall street ban­ker class and those who speak for them. See my last post with the vid — just for a quick link you might be inte­res­ted in.

    i agree, and there is not much to say when I agree, when I disa­gree I don’t have much to say because I hate arguing. in this case I don’t have to argue because i agree. There are some things which in the scheme of things aren’t really impor­tant because they do not prove cause and cause is what you want to prove if you are going to try to change beha­vior. Like you said this only pro­ves that if you remo­ved a cer­tain part of cer­tain men’s brains they would no lon­ger think of women as power tools when loo­king at pic­tu­res of them in bikinis.

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  8. QupidNo Gravatar says:

    I think they con­duct this sort of research to give blog­gers ammo for their daily posts. Maybe, if men are loo­king at women in swim­suits as objects, it isn’t neces­sa­rily a bad thing. Guys like me have seen their fair share of women who make it appa­rent that they believe they are gor­geous – the kind that expect us to gro­vel at their feet, whose beauty is so para­mount that con­si­de­ra­tion for others just isn’t neces­sary. If I look at a woman like that and my brain regis­ters her as an object, like a table or a sofa, it’s pro­bably because her level of inte­lli­gence is com­pa­ra­ble. The bet­ter loo­king a woman is, the more sus­pi­cious I am!

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    • cooperNo Gravatar says:

      I wish it were so. It looks to me they had a point they wan­ted to prove and chose a rather lazy way to prove it, a way which bene­fits no one and doesn’t further science one bit.

  9. piaNo Gravatar says:

    not fair that you clo­sed com­ments on one of the most insight­ful thought pro­vo­king posts you have ever written

    pia’s last blog post..Hey Daddy

  10. caseyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a pain when you close com­ments I agree.

    I agree on the nyu thing wtf — that whole thing loo­ked more disor­ga­ni­zed than my youn­ger sis­ters bedroom and that is pretty bad.

    The research thing, it is was­te­ful but there is an enter­tain­ment factor.

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  11. DougNo Gravatar says:

    How the hell did they find 21 hete­ro­se­xual men at Princeton?

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  12. BoneNo Gravatar says:

    I just come here for the artic­les. Honest.

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  13. The part that irks me the most is the jump from having touch sen­sory brain feeds to ‘obviously this is objec­tif­ying’… maybe it’s something more car­nal — like desire to touch someone and pos­sibly engage in inter­course. So to test this theory, we’d pro­bably have to involve fema­les loo­king at males. And males loo­king at males. And fema­les loo­king at fema­les. Because that’s how science works. And since when are 21-year old uni­ver­sity stu­dents a good con­trol? Didn’t we learn anything with Freuds sam­pling of 20 – 24 year old Swe­dish Women? QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK

    –J

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