Tid Bits

I was at class at eight, out at eleven, and hear this, home before noon. I dismissed my usual habit of staying in the city and using the university library thus allowing myself to enjoy the lack of traffic - it was like poetry. I’m not kidding, though I guess you had to be there to understand it all. You might have to be familiar with the usual shriek of the beltway in the late afternoon and early evening to understand. When, so rarely, it flows there is an illusion of floating home which brings a poetic peace.

I grow weary of the campaign coverage. it is exhausting to watch mistakes by my candidate and sleazy tactics by the one who is not my candidate. There is a growing fear that the old man takes it, and brings some other dwarf, or the “I’m a male model with really good hair” guy, with him. They will again paint the White House red, stoke the fires of a sick kind of nationalism reminiscent of Nazi Germany. Fearful, I truly might have to move back to Tasmania, though I haven’t been there in years, and all that sun screen would surely cause a severe bout of acne.

My scanner doesn’t work with Vista, God I hate Vista.


“I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people’s work,” Spitzer said, his weary-looking wife, Silda, standing at his side, again, as the corruption-fighting politician once known as Mr. Clean answered for his actions for the second time in three days.

Politicians are so damn hypocritical and scummy it is not funny.

Oh, you may want to know that one in four girls or young woman are infected with a sexually transmitted disease. Wow, ya think they all got it from he same guy?

In the end girls are the ones who end up with cancer, no uterus, or dead, so reality does lead us into making the headlines about the girls, but they are getting this somewhere, so we gotta start making those boys more responsible as well….and yes get rid of abstinence only education, everywhere.

There is no love here today.

Maybe tomorrow.

Peace.

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Comment by IrishspacemonkNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 01:41:41

First, God hates Vista too so you’re not alone.

I’m not sure who you’re candidate is, but I’ve got “hope” that it’s the right one. If it is, I wouldn’t get exhausted. There’s a large group of grass-rooters out there working while you take a break.

Sad state of affairs for sexually active young women. What’s even sadder is that if the stat is broken down further, it actually disportionately affects Blacks.

Spitzer’s a slime and probably spreading STDs.

Yeah … I guess I agree. No love today.

Best hope for tomorrow.

 
Comment by DougNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 06:26:34

Ah, Godwin’s Law again proves true. There will be no Nazi in the White House whatever happens. There will also not be a President who, by character, rises above the temptation of dishonesty, apparently.

 
Comment by harriettNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 09:01:52

Hey Cooper,
Girl, I hear you. Like you I am so buried in school I don’t have time to blog much - but I make it a point, a duty, to read your words. When I feel no one out there gets it - everybody’s f*%$in’ crazy - I remember your sanity & have a renewed hope. Thanks for that.

 
Comment by caseyNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 11:51:48

I’m glad I don’t routinely have to drive that beltway. I don’t think I’ve ever been on it during one of those poetic times. At least it is in better (constant) repair than the beltway around Baltimore.

Politics is exhausting.
March Madness will take my mind of things temporarily.

Those STD’s stats are pretty scary though, they had that article in the Sun too.

 
Comment by Jason P.No Gravatar
2008-03-13 16:39:43

Well, on my account, I haven’t been the one “spreading the seed” of disease/discontent. On that count, I am innocent.

Vista - don’t know much more than it is likely Windows 95 part III or IV, depending on how you count op. systems.

Politicians: it is always easy to be drunk with power. However, he had to be aware of how many he had pissed off, and, could he have been more idiotic about it? Try not to get caught, dude. Must be nice though, he’ll probably get to go back to his millionaire estate and suffer through it. (Prosecution and prison are unlikely.)

At least you “did” have a quick day. Take Care. :)

 
Comment by MorganLighterNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 19:45:56

I wonder if I should even comment.
I sense you’re not happy, not happy with the politicians, not happy with elected officials, not happy with the sexual mores of this day and age.
Who is? (Yeah, I could say Spitzer but to what end?)
I am fully aware of your take on Bush as well as McCain - but you should never compare any leader of this country with the sadistic, cruel, ungodliness of the Nazi regime, even if you couch your phrase as ‘the same type of nationalism reminiscent of’ - that’s so beneath you.
I read the story regarding STD’s and noted that the preponderance of women were black. What a shame - regardless of race - did you notice the age bracket - 12-20?
Our school system has let us down, not only can they not teach children the ‘3 R’s’ they can’t even instruct our children regarding the ‘birds and the bees’.
Someone should be shot.
Lastly, Deepak Chopra taught that there is one mantra that everyone should live by, and this is my gift to you: (say this to yourself as often as you can)
“The most important thing is that I’m happy” -

Peace

 
Comment by MarvalusOneNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 20:23:02

Peace to you, Coop…

Politics are becoming the bane of my existence…I never thought that that would ever be…maybe it is because I’m paying much more attention now?

I’m venturing into Vista land, with the new desktop I’m purchasing…it seems they all come with Vista pre-loaded; I’m wary…

There is always love here…it is just minute today and hidden beneath all of the crap that tries to steal it away…

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 20:57:28

spacemonk: I’m hoping for some Vista relief soon. You can take over from here.

Doug: Oh, that makes me feel much better.

Harriett: I am glad you fit me in. I know how times gets precious though I think I blogged in another life- making is easier for me.

Casey: I had to think a minute on March Madness.

Jason: I always take care.

Morgan: Actually I am perfectly happy with the sexual mores. I am not happy at the sate of sex education in the country or the school systems.

I realize the horror of Nazi Germany, (as much as anyone who wasn’t there could), but can’t deny that when a country starts heading toward a frenzy of us against them, starts spying on its own citizens, when any one of those citizens can be labeled an “enemy combatant” and have their rights taken away, when the Patriot Act allows doctors to give up private records about their patients, when a VP proclaims we will be greeted as liberators to Iraq, much as Nazi propaganda assured the German’s they would be greeted as liberators of Rhineland, “Sleeper Cells” before 911, and the invasion of Iraq were virtually unheard of in this country, all of a sudden is was the word of the day, within two years there were sleeper cells located (falsely) in both Los Angeles and Detroit, both cases eventually dismissed but at the time it was something with incited a fervor or hatred towards Muslims. Prisoners at Guantanamo not covered under the “Geneva Conventions” much like Nazi’s when they declared the troops invading Russia were to be treated harshly as they were not covered by the “Hague Conventions”.

The Military Commissions act?

Homeland Security? It was National Security until it became “Homeland” security. Didn’t Germany become “the homeland” right before the horrors began?
We are a Republic not a “homeland”, the word homeland itself kind of packs us together in an us against them way.

I don’t feel we are becoming Nazi Germany, but I believe there it a substantial amount of history, history of Stalin’s Russia, Hitlers Germany, Mussolini’s Italy, everyone must familiarize themselves with and absorb.

Check out Joseph Goebbels, I’m sure you have, but dig deeper. Not to say our government studied Goebbels, but we need to pay attention to what is going on around us and be ever wary. The similarities are there. So many it is hard to understand how it is not obvious to everyone.

If you think we are not cruel, and sometimes sadistic ..well certainly you may see it differently, and that is your right, but I see our government at this time as being selfish, corporate and greedy, and in that greed and hunger for power and money they have been not only cruel and stupid, but have done something so horrific in starting the war in Iraq for purposes of greed.

I think we need to take note of some of the similarities in tactics, of which there are actually hundreds, and start paying attention to our government.

The times are different, as is technology. The potential of an industrialized country becoming a Nazi Germany is highly unlikely, but I think we need to look to exactly how things occurred, how a nation of people allowed a genocide. We need to look at the tactics used by fascist governments, we ned to look at how many of the worlds most horrific dictatorships came to be. If we see some of ourselves, even a piece of ourselves in that mirror, we may be able to bounce the reflection and save this country.

Deepak Chopra also suggests that we can’t do anything about anyone but ourselves, he has made millions telling people that so they feel better about their self absorbed lives, giving them permission to be happy in their self absorption. People will buy anything which tells them they are doing the right thing by doing nothing for anyone but themselves.

I do believe we control ourselves only and their is much we can’t control. I also am not blind to this country and the potential both good and bad.

If some of what we do is familiar due to history than I am not in any way going to pretend it is not the case.

God Bless America…if there was a god that would be a good thing so let me just say

Bless America, because frankly I’m not sure on that.

peace

Marv: Vista was a pain to get used to and so many programs do not work with it, that and it build in security is a pain but what can we do? Nothing except use a MAC.

I’m on politics vacation.

 
Comment by ChrisNo Gravatar
2008-03-13 22:47:02

I’m liking this comment section tonight. I don’t necessarily think you compared our country, or its leaders, to Nazi Germany. I think you made a reference to the right wing direction our country is heading and will continue if John McCain is elected. To me, that’s not comparing them to the sadists of Nazism, not even close. I don’t think it’s beneath you at all. I agree with you.

I also hated Vista at first. It took some getting used to. I had to reinstall my printer, my fax and my ipod. After a couple months I actually have grown to like Vista. Of course Apple is the best, in my opinion that is.

1 in 4 girls. Wouldn’t that have to equal 1 in 4 boys as well? Or are all these girls getting it on with the same guy every time? Or, better yet, maybe these girls are getting it on with each other…I agree we gotta make the boys more responsible as well.

 
Comment by DIVASNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 00:27:13

well, it’s my exam n i’m blogging.
still glad to comment here - to someone - who cares!
thanx.

 
Comment by mojo shiversNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 02:44:08

Ever since I read that first post of yours speaking against abstinence only education, I’ve read up a lot more on the subject.

There’s still not enough being done and still not enough people speaking out against it. I know I can’t do as much as you, Cooper, but I do raise the topic into the conversation when appropriate, letting people know my stance on the subject.

 
Comment by the amoebaNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 05:35:53

I see our government at this time as being selfish, corporate and greedy

Precisely. I for one think that your comparisons between the US and despotic regimes (cf. Nazi Germany) are not that far wrong. And it’s not as if civilian Germany in 1939 were populated by cackling Peter Lorre clones. I daresay that the tenor of discussion over “homeland (Vaterland) security”, patriotism, domestic order, and the economy would, translated into English, sound chillingly familiar. Hitler, unlike Bush, was popular during his reign (German civilians saw levels of prosperity unmatched since before WWI), and remained popular even amidst the firebombs.

Yes. That means Hitler prospered because the German people allowed him to. Just like We the People are enabling our current social and political structure. For decades, We have had a culture of “whatever it is, it’s someone else’s fault”. It’s not “someone else’s” fault. It’s ours. And we’re already paying the price for our error. I only hope we haven’t already gotten to the point where rectification is impossible at any price.

Get a Mac. ;)

 
Comment by jacobNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 10:38:09

I think the word “Nazi”, and the history it comes with strikes a sensitive chord.

There is no excuse for us to not look at the past to prevent the future from following the same path, and you are right in the warning.

There is much chillingly familiar in the pattern of the rise of Nazi Germany, and a number of other dictatorships of the past, to the pattern around here the last five or six years.

Vigilance

You win the “best beltway ride of the week award”. ;0

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 19:23:10

Chris: This would be your cup of tea.

I’m still getting used to it, bbut only because I hav no choice.

DIVAS: Thanks for stopping in.

mojo: The visual of that is interesting.

amoeba: I get you to agree with me on something, that is cause for celebration.

I have a Mac, laptop. I had it for school because I had to. I guess if I had to I could go back to it. I always preferred PC for writing and reading though.

Jacob: Maybe of the month. ;)

 
Comment by Lynda LehmannNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 21:46:56

I think we have to try to find love in our hearts no matter what is happening around us. If we look to the outside world, we will never find it.

The human condition is pathetic. But it is also glorious. As for the “pathetic” part, we can transform it only one person at a time, by transforming ourselves. All the evils that we hate to see on the news daily, are, in my opinion, propelled by the lack of a healthy and mature self-love.

What do you think?

 
Comment by piaNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 22:05:46

When I think of blogging you and Doug come to mind first

I was wondering how you would answer the Deeprek Choopa comment. Liked your answer. But I do believe that that most people who work in “true helping professions” are overworked and underpaid, and until that unjustice is rectified 25% of American girls will have STD’s, abuse will go on and so on.

The way our society is set up you really have to have resources to actively care and even then it becomes overwhelming

I’m not going to touch the Nazi comments other than to say that part me of believes we are getting the government many deserve. We were living an illusion for too long and are now paying for it. I do blame people who thought it fun to live off their home equity, and easy credit. Easy is easy for a reason and usually always wrong

I cry for the people who did everything right and won’t be able to retire, or retire in comfort.

Our recent governments encouraged decadent behavior and we’re all going to be poorer in every sense for that. Nobody forced us to drink the Kool Aid

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 22:13:40

Lynda: I’ll expand and answer the comment tomorrow. I’m on my way out for a midnight Sangria and Omelet event.

Pia: I’ll probably have a lot to say some time this weekend.;)

Funny how someone was posting about sangria this evening and when this came up…. the temptation was to great.

 
Comment by TippNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 22:58:53

I am with you, election coverage is ruining my nightly news. Enough already.

How many more months?

I wish they couldn’t “buy” adverstisement. Only debates and other informative panels where they answer direct questions on stances and platforms, not quibbling and jabbing at each other to see who is left standing less wounded.

It is almost an insult to the people. It says we can’t take real information and make an informed decision, well most of us could - I would like to think that anyway.

 
Comment by EsotericWombatNo Gravatar
2008-03-14 23:35:26

Mark Twain once said that a lie can make it halfway around the world before the truth puts its shoes on.

Politics is the art of exploiting this.

 
Comment by JazNo Gravatar
2008-03-15 08:01:48

uhhh… does anyone here care to address the matter of Barack Obama’s “spiritual advisor” and his hate America/anti-semitic speech?

Dare to venture out of the the leftie echo-chamber and address this issue that is of genuine concern.

 
Comment by JazNo Gravatar
2008-03-15 08:25:55

That clip of Keith Olbermann chastising Ferraro featured on this blog seems infinitely more foolish than it would ordinarily be given the latest context. Just listen to the clip before it is quickly deleted. “Insidious racism”? Like that spouted by Obama’s spiritual adviser and current member of his campaign, Jerimiah Wright?

Do we not all now see how transparently bias pundits like Olbermann are? He’s clearly in the tank for Obama. He is practicing advocacy, not journalism. This is a fact.

Hillary must “reject and denounce” Ferraro?

Where, praytell, does that leave Obama vis-a-vis the reverend Jerimiah Wright?

This is a classic rant by Kieth Oberman. It will be remembered as the moment that he jumped the shark, even amongst his own leftie brethren.

 
2008-03-15 09:08:59

Cooper, I hear ya! I was feeling exactly that same way yesterday. The ‘no love here’ part, that is. I, too, am weary of many things in this country. I suppose that in part, I’ve utilized my blogging lately as one method of alleviating some of that irritation; trying to make light (somewhat) of politicians. Because life is so HEAVY right now, I’m feeling the need to keep things LIGHT, ya know?!

Politicians can be real assholes, to put it bluntly. I want a NEW breed of politicians, not the same old, sloppy, flip-flopping, disturbing bunch that I’ve lived with for the past 42 years. With the guidance and experience of my generation, it will be up to YOUR generation to take note of these occurrences and adjust your lives to make the necessary changes for the future of this country and your own children (jeez, that’s not a lot of pressure, huh?!).

I tell my 20 and 18 year olds regularly that they need to PAY ATTENTION to what’s happening in the world around them and take a proactive stance toward helping to fix problems in America.

Oh well, I’m getting off my soap box here and now. I already woke up feeling sick today, too much deep thought will only exacerbate my symptoms! I am on a political vacation. And I’m glad.

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-15 13:07:34

JAZ: I don’t think anyone here has to address anything,it’s a personal blog. I believe he’s denounced the pastor’s rhetoric, though I’ve been withdrawing from news the paste week.

Of course Jaz, we all have our own agenda.

The media and punditry are clearly biased with all major media outlets owned by corporations General Electric. Westinghouse, Disney, Time-Warner, Wacom, Murdock etc.
This doesn’t prevent me from using pieces of it that they get right, which is exactly why that video is there.

You don’t have to comment so many times on one post either it just so happens that I do not look at this blog every hour, it could take an hour to a day or two so for me to respond. You look like quite a troll - I deleted your last comment because of it.

Kim: The John Adams series is starting soon on HBO, if I have time to watch anything over the next few weeks that will be it.

EW: Of course you are right.

 
Comment by johnNo Gravatar
2008-03-15 14:37:19

Haven’t seen the news at all here in Austin. I think you would like this, you should come to one of these one day, we’re off to check out a few films. Crazy.

I was coming to see if you needed rescuing. I think you’re doing fine.

My comment on the Nazi thing would just be redundant, if we can’t see where we are going we may need to get a new map.

You are usually free from trolls, how did you get so lucky this weekend? Paybacks for that once in a lifetime poetic beltway drive?

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-15 19:41:54

Tip: I’m with you. The way the system is run is part of the problem.

john: My turn I guess.

 
Comment by MorganLighterNo Gravatar
2008-03-17 22:33:18

Cooper:

The reason for my not immediately commenting was of a personal nature. I lost a close member of my family and therefore was not in the right frame of mind to attend to answering your comment. I’m not sure if I’m ready yet, but here goes.

When you say you’re happy with the sexual mores of this country are you saying that it’s okay for 10-12 year olds to engage in sexual liaisons and that you support this type of behavior? I think that children shouldn’t but I guess anything goes – yes? And to let you know, it’s not just the boys giving the girls STD’s it’s also working the other way around. As far as the sex education that our schools teach, I think it’s down right shameful. Our education system has got to get their heads out of their asses and quite acting so puritanical – abstinence, in most cases, is laughable. We need to preach prevention.

Nazi Germany. This topic hits close to home as I had relatives living in Austria and Germany prior to Adolf Hitler taking power. I didn’t know them as I was born 4 years after the end of World War II. I later learned that a great number of them perished in the camps while others were able to escape the ‘final solution’. Those who were fortunate handed down stories to their children and other relatives so they would know of the tragic events that happened. In this way, and by reading what others have read, I learned about the Nazis and their methodologies in dealing with the Jews, the insane, the handicapped, the Gypsies, the Poles, the French, the Russians, etc. I also learned things from my father who was a career military officer – who served in both theaters during WWII, Korea, the middle east and other countries (these were classified and I have no information on where exactly he was) and two tours of Viet Nam. My upbringing may have skewed my outlook on our military and our commanders in chiefs when I was younger, but I think I have moved a bit to the left as I’ve gotten older. I actually can see that it’s no longer black and white, there are various shades of gray.

Spying on our citizens, citizens who might be labeled as ‘enemy combatants’, rights take away, Patriot Act allowing doctors to cede patients’ records, wanting to be able to know what books citizens were checking out of the library (my addition), a VP proclaiming we would be greeted as liberators to Iraq, ‘Sleeper Cells’ before 911, invasion of Iraq (after 911), sleeper cells located in Los Angeles as well as Detroit proved false but invoked hatred of Muslims, prisoners at Guantanamo (perhaps) not covered under the Geneva Convention – your point being?

I’d like to know what you would do if you were President prior to 911 and after. The al-Qaida entered our country, some illegally and some stayed after their visas were invalid, and they, well you know what they did. Did you have any friends or family that were killed 9-11-01? I did. If you did or didn’t, it doesn’t matter. Foreign assassins invaded our country and took the lives of nearly 3,000 people. Exactly what kind of ripple effect did that cause the friends, families, businesses, infrastructure, our feeling of security, etc? So what if sleeper cells in two cities were bogus – how many more sleeper cells are still in our ‘back yard’ just waiting to rise up again? If the government wants to spy on what I read, eat, watch, hear, say – have at it. Want to look at my medical records – go for it. If it helps eliminate another tragedy like 911 – knock on my door and come in.

You must know that every institution wherein you either bank, shop, etc. knows most everything about you? Most of us don’t carry cash as we use either a debit or credit card and each time we use those methods of payment a little bit more of you is revealed. Medical records can be accessed by a myriad of agencies. The DMV is a sieve. Have a TiVo? Yup, they’ve got you there as well.

The last sentence – ‘much like Nazi’s when they declared the troops invading Russia were to be treated harshly as they were not covered by the “Hague Conventions”. Wasn’t it the Germans who were invading Russia and got their asses handed to them at Stalingrad? By the way, if FDR (along with Britain) hadn’t given the Russians financial and military aid to the tune of billions of dollars – in goods, food, medical supplies, clothing, gasoline, heating oil, and war materiel, the Nazis would have had a cake walk and we’d all be speaking German. Want more? Check out this site:
http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/persian/

The Military Commissions Act. Yes? We are at war. Homeland security? Germany didn’t use the phrase ‘homeland’, it was Fatherland.

Stalin’s Russia – this could fill volumes as well as Hitler’s Germany and Benito Mussolini’s Italy. Why did you not mention Emperor Hirohito’s Japan?

And yes I am quite familiar with Joseph Goebbels. You left out Martin Bormann who was second in command after Hitler. Henrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess, Herman Goering, Reinhard Heydrich, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and list goes on. A couple of more players in the insane act were Albert Speer and Leni Riefenstahl. The first was Hitler’s architect and set the ‘stage’ for many of Hitler’s speeches and Leni was the woman who filmed most of those occasions.

Getting back to Goebbels. He was on the cover of Time Magazine, July 10, 1933. Not surprising as there were several of our ‘greatest businessmen and heroes’ who adored and or admired what Hitler was doing for Germany. Tom Watson, Sr. owner of IBM supplied the punch card system so that the Nazis could keep track of the Jews, what they did and where they went, where they worked and thusly facilitating the movement of the Jews by train to various camps. Henry Ford was awarded Germany’s highest medal of honor. He also established an anti-Jewish newspaper that was as hateful and licentious as any paper the NSDAP printed. He even fired any Jew that worked at his plants. Charles Lindbergh was another fan of the Nazis and Hitler. The list goes on.

During World War II there were several organizations in America who were a part of the Bundt. There were also several congressional persons who didn’t want the Jews to ‘sully our soil’ over the wishes of FDR. Guess who won.

There is cruelty and sadistic people everywhere. It’s become quite ubiquitous – and that’s a crying shame. It runs from the top down. And, no, I am not proud of our governmental officials – either Democrat or Republican. We, as American Citizens, have been robbed of our ability to come together as a cohesive unit and make a change – and it’s our press, our entertainment industry, our television and radio programs and most of all our government who does not want us to coalesce. United we stand, divided we lose.

Our government is a disgrace at the local and federal levels. ‘Us against them’ will prevail until we ‘fix’ what’s wrong at the top, middle and bottom. Since the top isn’t about to give up their perks, their pork and their preposterous outlooks on things, and the middle is just trying to get by - then I guess it’s left up to the bottom. I can’t wait to see how Michigan and Florida shake out – and if Hillary is nominated – there’s going to be chaos like we’ve never seen it.

There is so much hate, pain, abandonment, lack of caring, rape, killing, robbing, etc. going on in this world that I think many people just turn their heads and ignore the whole mess. We’re being inundated with so much violence, so many crimes against humanity that we truly have become inured to the situation. How sad.

Well, that just about sums it up for me. I believe I’ve covered every point you made – perhaps not to the degree you’d like or maybe more than you like on some others.

Oh, one more-
I believe you missed the point on Deepak Chopra. You assessment is partially correct. I won’t go on with this particular point as I noticed you’ve posted an article on DC himself and since you’ve already given me your point of view on him, I can only assume it’s another character assassination. Was your ‘take’ on Chopra from out of the blue or did you purposefully address him due to my closing words?

Did you contradict yourself when you first said ‘Deepak Chopra also suggests that we can’t do anything about anyone but ourselves’ and then in the next paragraph say, ‘I do believe we control ourselves only’?

If you’d like to take shots at others whom I have admired and thought well of them I’ve got a list that will keep you posting ‘til hell freezes over.

If there is a God then he must either be laughing or crying – perhaps both.

The end.

 
Comment by MorganLighterNo Gravatar
2008-03-18 00:19:19

P.S.
We need to look at the Treaty of Versailles to appreciate how Germany was treated and also we need to remember that the depression of 1929-39 effected not only the United States but Britain and Europe as well. Germany’s inflation was so terrible that at one time a loaf of bread cost 100,000 marks or more.
Had Germany been treated more fairly, Hitler might not have even made a blip on the radar screen of Germany. Here’s a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
You can follow and should you need more information, check out various books from your library or Google it.

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-18 00:22:06

Morgan: I’m sorry for your loss.

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2008-03-18 00:45:37

I don’t think that people should have sex until they are old enough to have a healthy understanding of human beings as a whole ,with boys understanding girls are people first and so on. I see a lot of things that do not seem appropriate, but I do not see, in real life, such moral decline at least on a personal level, though I do see a huge lack of respect for humanity, lack of common sense, and media provocation which we buy into some what.

The point being we need to see the similarities because they are there, in order to prevent our government from going down a long dark road and dragging us along. I am however much to the left of you and though I don’t see conspiracy I see a government which is cruel and selfish and corporate as I said, a government entrenched with corporations who made millions off the spoils of the war in Iraq.

My family is familiar with a man who worked for Blackwater, the man was a Marine years ago, but I only know the stories at the outset of the war and to this day from this man are rather horrific,though he does not seem to see it that way.

When they call you an enemy combatant for no good reason and allow you or your family no due process you may feel differently. We should have gotten the f–kers in Afghanistan…we should not have made fake alerts, invaded Iraq, tortured people who did not deserve to be tortured. Change comes from within,we know that, and if we really wanted to help Iraq there were ways to help them change their government themselves. Instead we have made the US more a target for terrorism lost many lives and spent trillions.

I don’t want my government spying on me under their rules. If they can declare anyone an enemy combatant and considering how often they seem to get things wrong…no thank you.

What was meant was when the Germans were invading Russia they were told to treat Russian troops harshly no conventions … and to treat civilians with the utmost cruelty.

No the German’s didn’t use homeland they used “fatherland”. The Nazi’s used “Homeland”

And your point is? I’m confused here as to the point, the fact that some very rich Americans head of corporations were enthralled with the Nazi’s to me means it is not that unlikely it could happen again.

I believe we can certainly blame the government and the people for electing the government and not really paying attention… the media…well corporatism… and the people again. Really it is the people and the government. The media is the government is many ways the huge corporations which own most of the major media outlets in some way control the government. We watch the media we drive it.

I have no one in my immediate family who suffered through the horrors of Nazi Germany I have two family friends who had family who did.

No again, on did I know someone who died on 9/11, a family friend of mine was newly employed across the street, on her first real job out of college and she saw bodies falling out of the window, I remember as I was a junior in high school and her mother, a professor at a local college was frantic, unable to get in touch with her and left for New Jersey that evening because she didn’t know what else to do..I also was in lock down as my high school is in the D.C. fly zone or whatever it was called, so we were in that circle of planes - Pentagon-Pennsylvania… so many forget the Pentagon was also hit, and that plane in PA was heading back… we were juniors in high school watching on television our country being attacked. I do not think we were horrified, a sad thing maybe but it was almost as if this was not unexpected.

I understand it was a tragedy. I just never understood what made it more of a tragedy than any other tragedy,what made the untimely deaths of those any different than the many tragic and untimely deaths all over the world every day. I get the attacking our country thing, and if we had gone after Al Queda it would have made sense, we didn’t and so now for me nothing makes sense and I do not believe much of anything…and then came Katrina…what good our government?

I’m not sure if growing up partly in Tasmania, Sydney, Venezuela…and of course Vermont is to blame for some of this. The United States is my country but there are many countries and the people are just people.

I’m not sure what you meant on the contradiction I said I believe we control ourselves it is not the same things as not being able to do things for others, though it is the excuse those who follow that mindset use. We can actually do things which will affect others lives in positive ways we just can’t control those others….

I actually had a few emails on Chopra which is why I addressed the subject.

I’m sure there is more I have to look at it tomorrow it is late when I saw this but I responded as best I could at this time of night.

Oh and in regard to your second comment. It does pay to look at who we are treating fairly…how the people of governments we ignore, don’t recognize, sanction or embargo, perceive us. It affects these people lives. The whole picture is different now, we are no longer at least economically the top power in the world,we are going to have to work with the whole world now and it is unlikely we will dominate them. We need to use sense to see how our policy affects the living breathing people of any given country because in the end it will come back to haunt us.

 
Comment by sauerkrautNo Gravatar
2008-03-18 21:36:45

lots to read, lots to read.

 
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