Wonderland or Not


Daddy Daddy What Should I wear.

If asking your Daddy or brother Josh what to wear ( sorry didn’t mean to get you involved bro) isn’t the creepiest thing you have ever read please feel free to check out the great modesty survey being released on St Valentines Day. (Survey Here)

This gives me the willies on so many levels.

Just the prologue leads me to believe that these boys / men believe it is alright to blame women for their pathetic actions by virtue of blaming the way women dress and attributing all this to God’s will.

I can’t help but get the big time creepies to think that girls would be taking advice from fathers and brothers on what to wear in order to prevent the “destructive effects” there-in. The sad part is there are actually some girls buying into this.

From their blog:
“The overwhelming response to the idea of a modesty discussion confirmed its importance. Some Christian girls have fathers or brothers to provide godly input on their attire, but many more have none. Many girls seem oblivious to the destructive effects of immodest attire on their brothers in Christ. Others desire to honor God and to protect their brothers, but don’t know where to start”

So, if you don’t have a father or brother to tell you how to dress, in order to prevent the destruction of the male species by their own base instincts, (caused by your potential immodest dress), this survey with set you straight.

I wonder how this kind of brain washing begins because it is brain washing. These guys were home schooled, there will be a lot of assumption about that I’m certain. My very first…uh “real boyfriend” was home schooled until ninth grade, comes from a family full of priests and deacons and such and believe me this doesn’t necessarily come from home schooling. I mean look at the naked gymnastic people they don’t wear any clothing and there is some home schooling going on there I believe. ;)

I wonder what is so wrong with learning self respect, and respect of others regardless of dress.

I wonder when people stop blaming their faults on the way others dress, look, eat, drive, smell, talk, fuck, and piss.

I wonder when god will stop all the rape, murder, starvation and abject poverty in Africa.

I hope that next time these people are discussing their future surveys with god they will ask him those questions.

Thanks to my friend Kait for the link.

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20 Comments »

Comment by daneNo Gravatar
2007-02-13 22:54:12

cooper, cooper, cooper,

Just what I need to look forward to in this snow encrusted hell.

I can’t argue with you on this but I’m bored, and want to.

If my sister or girlfriend’s ever asked me how I wanted them to dress to prevent my destructive sexual urges - that’s what they are alluding to right - I would be more than a little disconcerted.

I can’t think of any situation where I couldn’t control all of that despite the apparel worn by a female in my presence.

Good list of questions for God too.

 
Comment by EsotericWombatNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 00:34:57

I guess those weirdos see me as part of the problem. I’m often asked for the exact opposite sort of advice as far as appeal to baser urges goes.

It’s a common misconception that god created the Universe from scratch. It came in a kit. And once he was done, he threw away the manual, which unfortunately held the directions for upkeep and maintenance.

 
Comment by mojo shiversNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 03:58:52

Letting anybody tell you what to wear is kind of stupid to me. It’s your body and you know how you want to portray yourself. What other people choose to see is their problem.

 
Comment by DougNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 07:13:22

Yes, yes, yes to modest dress!
A plaid skirt to show your innocence,
Tights to cover your knees for when you confess.
And a bow in your hair I can watch over the fence.
A sweater of lambs wool to enhance your youth,
Running shoes, too to show your resolution
Pearl earrings to prove your couth
And add a fur stole to disprove evolution.
Eyeliner will only make you look spacy,
But under it all, maybe wear something lacy.

 
Comment by SauerKrautNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 08:44:15

I just had a “spirited” conversation with my daughter about her attire - shorts and tank; it’s freezing rain and 22F outside - when I came across your post. So I clicked the link, looked, disapproved (not surprising) and left them this message:

“I showed the survey to my daughter and instructed her, with God’s blessing, that only stupid men tell their women what to do and wear. I also told her that God gave her a brain and that He, in all his glory, expects her to use it. Or lose it to hezbollah-type men who try to control her every wish and thoughts. May you always enjoy the loving embraces of Tammi Faye Baker. ”

Yes. I feel better now. Happy Valentine’s Day :-)

 
Comment by jacobNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 11:19:37

I agree with you on so many levels about this. I don’t want to give them the satisfaction of reading it.

Remember - they know not what they do.

Happy Valentine’s Day Cooper.

 
Comment by piaNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 11:44:33

I was going to post the survey and comments but don’t want to…

Once I was dressed for summer in Central Park. As I crossed
Fifth somebody yelled at me for being so immodest on Fifth

Thought about flashing, but that’s really not me. Point being, I never
cared about how people perceived me, I knew me

And my father approved as it was my mother who encouraged my
immodesty

 
Comment by LeighNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 11:44:43

Happy V-Day dear… hmmmm… What am I to do with my urges? Oh well… to hell I go…

 
Comment by GNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 12:00:11

And when your toes turn on the guy with the foot fetish you will just have to get rid of those damn “Rainbow” sandals and start wearing work boots.

It doesn’t amaze me that this is out there.
I like to think of it merely as an ill conceived plan but it isn’t, these kids believe this stuff and it is not just scary for women it is scary for men because they will never “get it”.

I’m sure they will appreciate the link you gave them.

I like the suggestion of lace underneath.

 
Comment by jakeNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 12:14:30

To follow up on your other Valentine’s day posts, the one you wrote earlier in the week and past posts.

Those are the kind of men who give really nice Valentine’s gifts and those are the kind of women who except them year after year despite abuse.

My classes were all canceled today. I may have time to post something.

 
Comment by coyotemikeNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 17:44:39

I see cleavage from my students almost everyday, but I look away and am not tempted to rape them.

I see girls in tight pants, but have never once grabbed one and forced her into an alley.

Every summer, I see girls in bikinis, but not once have I beaten any into submission for rape.

I imagine a woman in a burkha is in the exact same amount of risk as a woman in low-rise jeans, crop top, and stiletto heels. Anyone who blames sexual assault on the victim is a fool with their head in the sand.

If lack of modesty were a cause for rape, wouldn’t nudist beaches and camps be full of bleeding, beaten, raped women?

 
Comment by coyotemikeNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 17:45:09

Oh, and happy fake holiday day!

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 18:28:58

Dane: Yes, I especially want to ask God those questions.

EW: You are a bad seed my dear. ;)

mojo: exactly.

Doug: Lacy things tend to itch.

SauerKraut: Yes. my problem with those who tout God is that it is so far from actually encouraging people to take responsibility for their own life and give that same god enough credit for making people so that people could then function fully, wisely , smartly, - enjoying all this god supposedly gave them.
You are very wise. Thank you for stopping by I hope to stop over at your place soon. I am meeting many interesting people these days.
Jacob: Happy day to you too.

Pia: You immodest? Never.

Leigh: If you box those urges up maybe you could make some money…

Happy V day sweet leigh of the land of waves and no ice. ;)

G: Those sandals are evil I tell you.

Jake: lucky for you, one of my professor did not com in from NJ so I only had one early morning class.

coyote: yup full of crap and happy v day to you as well.

 
Comment by kaitNo Gravatar
2007-02-14 21:03:33

Your welcome.

I thought you would appreciate it.

 
Comment by {illyria}No Gravatar
2007-02-15 00:38:18

ha. well said. my grandmum was always the first to point out that if a woman could get away with wearing, and i quote, “those painful, ungodly things called brassieres,” then she was one lucky one. my dad, her son, couldn’t argue at all. :)

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2007-02-15 02:05:00

illyria:

Darling, your gramdmum was the wisest.
btw I was doing some comparative literature this morning and cummings was discussed, and for some reason your vague picture flashed through my mind.

 
Comment by joegarbialNo Gravatar
2007-02-15 14:32:19

I also have a lot of similar questions to pose to this god, should I ever come across him.

Thank god, in this world full or horrible things, we have some upstanding young men willing to step up to the plate and tell their sisters what to wear to for the sole purpose of keeping upstanding young men from getting a hard-on.

 
Comment by direheroicsNo Gravatar
2007-02-15 16:12:29

There’s two completely seperate issues with the above.

First, girls who dress in particular ways and wonder why they are being hit on, approached, ogled, etc bother me. Don’t dress like that if you don’t want to be noticed.

On the other hand, blaming reprehensible behavior above and beyond the harmless look, hit on, etc. on the way someone dresses is like someone blaming murdering someone on their shoes or color of their bandana.

Wait a sec.

People have to take responsibility for what they do. Wear a short skirt? You’re asking to be noticed… not asking to be raped or bothered. But they are seperate issues.

People just don’t like to exert self-control or responsibility in many aspects of their lives.

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2007-02-15 16:31:18

Dan, funny you should say that because I don’t agree and one thing struck me so I’m going to address it here.

If I happen to go into my closet and find a short skirt and a shirt which appears comfortable, but which happens to expose a part of my breast by happenstance more than by design, the last thing I am thinking about while dressing is “should I wear this and is this going to get me undue attention and ogling”. It is a great disrespect to women that men think a woman deserves and is asking to be ogled if she dresses a certain way, when a man would never assume such a thing about a man.

If I wear a short skirt I am not asking to be noticed, I am wearing something that happens to be comfortable and a man should give me as much respect as he would give another man in not staring at or commenting on my legs or my skirt or my ass or my breasts no matter what I wear.

I’m not talking a bikini out on Broadway here just the fact that a there is no reason for a man to think a women’s dress begs for him to notice or deserves the disrespect of such, or that there is in the assumption that the woman, by way of her dress, is asking for attention as most of the time is is unwarranted and unwanted.

I’m am glad to have you back Dan. Seriously I am.

 
Comment by cooperNo Gravatar
2007-02-15 16:44:16

Joe: I didn’t see you there, your comment was so minuscule in size compared to the rest. I appreciate your sarcasm.

 
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