You Live — You Learn. Usually the Hard Way

Let’s ligh­ten things up.

Pos­sibly because I often proudly claim to go to a school that is not lit­te­red with guys on tes­tos­te­rone over­load, who ima­gine them­sel­ves to be somehow more sig­ni­fi­cant than guys who actually go to college to learn something, a  friend has pos­ted, (in an iro­nic twist and I fear in order to coun­ter my posts), a his­tory of Lac­rosse with some indi­ca­tion that NYU had the first college lac­rosse team in the country. 

 I have no idea if this is true but do not feel like using my inves­ti­ga­tive pro­wess to find out so I will take the word of this - good with num­bers - sur­fer boy just out of sheer lazi­ness.( actually I did inves­ti­gate some and by the look s of these pants I unders­tand totally why they no lon­ger have a san­tio­ned team). He did remind me though, because I pas­sed this piece of info on to him a week or two ago…about the cou­ple of rather funny emails I recei­ved. Not sure if they were meant to be funny but I’ll start out with an explanation.

You live you learn.You love you learn. You cry you learn .You lose you learn. You bleed you learn. You scream you learn

There aren’t many sports here really — there are “sports” but this is cer­tainly not the place you come if your inte­rest is colle­giate sports — they have a lot of club teams for this or that a few intra­mu­rals and a cou­ple of Div 3 teams. So it appears we evi­dently have a club lac­rosse team and that club lac­rosse team would like to become a divi­sion three college team. Who Knew !!!

This is one  of the emails. I recei­ved, can’t remem­ber when but they were having some kind of tour­na­ment or game in Long Island or something, with attach­ment with sche­dule infor­ma­tion  with it.

Dear Miss.….…

We are happy to see you sprea­ding news of the sport of Lac­rosse. Any publi­city is good publi­city as far as we can tell.

Our spec­ta­torship has grown expo­nen­tially as the Duke scan­dal has grown so we would like to encou­rage your par­ti­ci­pa­tion, as a boos­ter perhaps, and invite you to show your face at any of the events. Yes Ms —— we know what you look like or we wouldn’t invite you because, eli­tist pigs that we are we are, we are very par­ti­cu­lar; so before you make all lac­rosse pla­yers out to be drunk, idio­tic, misogy­nis­tic bas­tards it would be a good idea to meet a few who are not.

We look for­ward to your support

Please sup­port our quest for Divi­sion 3 status.

Res­pect­fully (is there any other way)

Down­load the blah blah blah.

Pffft.….….…. men with sticks.….…,

So far the boys have been arres­ted pos­ted bail and have been sus­pen­ded from school as is nor­mal pro­ce­dure when a stu­dent is char­ged with a felony even prior to any conviction.

You grieve you learn. You choke you learn. You laugh you learn. You choose you learn. You pray you learn. You ask you learn. You live you learn

The Duke Chro­nicle weighs in and they are sick of it as well but as it is emba­rras­sing their school they need to make some attempt to give a crap even before final exams.

Syra­cuse refu­ses to con­si­der trans­fers. ( We know after, all that, Syra­cuse cer­tainly wouldn’t have any drunk– rowdy overly sexed and under-ly scre­wed lac­rosse pla­yer acting out their sick fantasy’s in this manner.)

  Some girl was on tele­vi­sion, ( Nancy Grace — and believe me I have a bit of a pro­blem with shows like Nancy Grace because they have their own pathos which this blog does not have the band­width to take on), last night clai­ming one of the guys to  be the ” per­fect gent­le­men” a “gent­le­men who visits his girl­friend in the hos­pi­tal, and who ever­yone likes to be around because he is so res­pect­ful to women” blah, blah, blah but she could not really ans­wer the ques­tion as to why a “per­fect gent­le­men” would  be at a party where there was vora­cious part­ying, drin­king and strip­ping she was only there to speak for his character.….….….…

 It’s all such a “Jag­ged Little Pill” isn’t it boys?

Now on to Pia’s .….….….….….….….….…News­day stint.. Great stuff. Fame and fortune…It will be a tough road but some how she will manage I am sure. Next week Time.

Don’t for­get to check out Hell on Earth              because it is.

Adden­dum: Via Embol­de­ned .….check out the rest.

FLASH: Hec­kler dis­rupts Chi­nese Pre­si­dent Hu’s speech on south lawn at White House: ‘Pre­si­dent Bush, stop him from killing’… ‘Stop per­se­cu­ting the Falun Gong,’ she yelled… She also shou­ted in Chi­nese, ‘Pre­si­dent Hu, your days are num­be­red’… woman is taken away by uni­for­med sec­ret ser­vice offi­cers… right after Bush urged Hu to allow Chi­nese to ’speak freely’

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25 Comments

  • Just had to check out those pants. OY! No won­der.
    Rot­ten apples often look ok from the outside, but inside they can be rot­ten to the core.

  • This was on a ligh­ter note. Enough for an after­noon chuckle.

    Does that email not give you pause for concern?

    Short Pants, those were the days.

    Some of those stu­dents at Duke sound pretty pis­sed off about
    their school get­ting this bad publicity.

    I think having you for a sup­por­ter of any kind would be
    a good thing.

  • I have pic­trues of rela­ti­ves with simi­lar shorts.What were they thin­king.
    Nice emails you get. You’d make a fine cheer­lea­der but I don’t get
    the impres­sion that’s your thing.
    Nancy Grace does have a pathos all her own that is for sure.

    Pia’s news day thing ..that was so pia wasn’t it?
    No tes­tos­te­rone in nyc?

  • LOL… those were some “sexy” pants… :)

    I’m befuzz­led by the whole Duke thing.…

    As for the emails… hmmm?

  • Hmmm… you can almost cate­go­rize those as “booty pants”. Too funny,
    not to men­tion scary :)

  • Cow­girl: those pants are fright­full to be sure. Rot­ten Apples…so many and the dis­guise is so good.

    joe: did you wear short shorts? No pause for con­cern it was a joke i’m sure.

    jacob: no cheer­lea­der moi and I think haven’t loo­ked for tes­tos­te­rone I’m sure it’s around somewhere. Cer­tainly­not on a lac­rosse team that would have to be called ” Violets”.

    Leigh: where the heck have you been sur­fer girl , only girl on my RILF.;) We miss you. Booty pants would be scary on any guy.

    Shayna: cutie pants. Don’t be befudd­led it will all come out even­tually. I’m just angry about thinkgs that peo­ple say about

    strip­pers deser­ving it etc. I have no idea if they are guilty just pigs. So you sleep in the nude? Me too. lol 

  • …as oppo­sed to me, who went to USC, other­wise known as a big sports school, espe­cially in football.

  • damn it…

    This is what you call light­ning it up?

    Being the daugh­ter of a famous rock icon is stress­ful enough I guess.

    It’s my birth­day today…Turning 35..now that’s stress­ful..
    I don’t sleep in the nude…Anyways, I don’t know where I’m
    going with this…35..mid-life BS I sup­pose.
    I’m going get drunk tonight maybe.. Hope­fully I don’t get raped..
    No, scratch that.…I don’t mine unless it’s anal.
    I’d bet­ter stop, this has no point…going to hurry and click
    sub­mit comment.…live and learn

  • if i lived as much as i’ve lear­ned, then i’d be post-modern by now. those are some shorts. defi­ni­tely not a wet dream.

  • Why can’t men wear Daisy Dukes and get the same res­pect women get?

  • Doug is so sassy.
    I like wea­ring Daisy Dukes!

  • I’m sure I pos­ted on this one earlier.

  • coyote:Sorry I woke up late and had a ton of com­ments in mode­ra­tion because of the way this thing is set up now due to crazy hate com­ments and just spam in gene­ral and you were in the mode­ra­tion box and for some rea­son got dele­ted. I rea­li­zed it right after I clic­ked it but couldn’t un — do it. ;)

    mojo: But the ques­tion is did you wear short shorts?

    Ben­net: Happy Birth­day. Drink lots of fluid if you’re going to get drunk. My mother..who is somewhat older than 35, but not older than fifty yet,has said that middle age begins around sixty these days. Then again she always lived in a bubble.

    tran­sience: I thought you were post modern? opps my bad.:) No, No wet dream there.

    Doug: If anything they should be out­la­wed. I’d res­pect you no mat­ter what you wore but I would laugh a little behnd your back.

    Cow­girl: Never wore daisy dukes myself at least not that I can remem­ber. I’m sure you loo­ked hot in them though.

  • A whole new mea­ning for “dou­ble stan­dard,” n’est-ce pas? And the best rea­son ever to have one.

  • Alice,

    Inte­res­ting take, but like all peo­ple, you have mis­sed the point of what hap­pe­ned at Duke. Let me pre­face by saying; I’m not trying to say in any­way that what the Lac­rosse Pla­yers did was right. I am saying that it is a pro­blem in uni­ver­si­ties, not just with sports teams. By she­ding a bad light on a sport you are hur­ting the sport, not the pla­yers. The pla­yers who are also college stu­dents are res­pon­si­ble for there own actions. Sports do not breed this beha­vior, peo­ple do. It is a pro­blem on all cam­pu­ses, everywhere. If you want it to be sol­ved you should focus on how stu­dents in gene­ral act on college cam­pu­ses! Also go here!

  • I wish I had never star­ted this but here goes.

    My ori­gi­nal post was on Rape Cul­ture it’s in the archi­ves if you care to read it and it had very little to do with the Duke lac­rosse pla­yers themselves.

    Even though I agree with you to some extent, and if you had read my pre­vious posts would unders­tand that I have nothing against lac­rosse, some of my good friends either still play lac­rosse in college or did play in high school as did my brother, cou­sins etc.

    I agree that this is not about shed­ding light on lac­rosse it is about a few men who have obviously been out of con­trol for some time with the full know­ledge of their school but because they were a top ran­ked( lac­rosse) team they were allo­wed to carry on like, at the very least, boo­rish pigs until something hap­pe­ned and it became public and obvious that these boys have some serious issues with race, sex and entitlement.

    Maybe this is pre­va­lent in the gene­ral popu­la­tion or gene­ral college popu­la­tion to some extent or maybe not but I ima­gine you will find many peo­ple at colle­ges across the country that would take issue of being lum­ped into this cate­gory and you may even find lac­rosse pla­yers doing( taking  issue) the same. (Many college teams are doing it as we speak as a mat­ter of act — trying to tigh­ten the reins on their pla­yers and dis­tan­cing them­sel­ves from Duke)

    Sadly for the” Duke Boys” they are being expo­sed for what they are. Whether they are rapists or not well that will be deter­mi­ned, but they are something and it is not per­fect gent­le­men des­pite the fact that they may treat their girl­friends “quite nicely and bring them get well cards”.

    I agree it is not about lac­rosse or lac­rosse pla­yers in gene­ral it is about this lac­rosse team, this school and the pla­yers while also being about a cul­ture in gene­ral which igno­res the pathe­tic situa­tions on college cam­pu­ses, igno­res the fact that we live in a sexist, racist country.

    The site you lin­ked me to is touching and I’m sure it was heart felt. I just don’t think that one lac­rosse pla­yers fee­ling about his sport mat­ters much.

    A note: I used to love going to my friends and my brother’s lac­rosse games.

  • I should apo­lo­gize. Stic­kler lin­ked here from my blog (I think) where he has
    on a few occa­sions given opi­nions that seem to leap without looking.

    Anyone who reads you knows you look at the whole pic­ture and aren’t
    attac­king the sport.

  • CNN in China cut that part out. Pro­blem is poor woman had no chance with an idiot in charge who is pro­bably thin­kin “Fall on what?”

    Say Bush and a bur­ning, seething rage is awakened.

    Rage… The asshole!

    Wait… women get res­pect? Who’d a thunk it!

  • But why woudn’t a sin­gle per­sons opi­nion matter?

    Isn’t that what we all do with blogs, try to pro­li­fe­rate our opinions!

    I’m sorry that I didn’t read back through your his­tory to get the whole pic­ture of your view. I unders­tand now. I’ll drop it so as to keep the coyote at bay!

  • Coo­per, you do know that some peo­ple are highly offen­ded by this.

    The shorts I mean.

    If this is a light as you can go right now I understand.

    You know we agree on only about sixty per­cent of this but those long days of arguing into the wee hours were gone years ago and I won’t get into a debate here. It’s late and we are lea­ving for NJ to sup­port our team tomo­rrow in their “big game”. It’s a long drive.

    I am glad you took my his­tory in the man­ner it was inten­ded, and by that I mean jokingly.

    Only thing I have to say is that I’m glad it isn’t my jag­ged little pill to swa­llow, you do reap what you sow and in the end it will all come out.

    A look into that loo­king glass is always a wake up call so stop making me do it.

    Bush …a grea­ter emba­rrass­ment to prin­ci­ples than ever sat in the hot seat.

  • Doug: Oui ‚oui ‚oui mon cher chien.

    Coyote: Dis­sen­ting opi­nions are always wel­come here unlike either at the web site that that stic­kler came from or the one he left a link to. I pos­ted a com­ment at one of the ( sorry long day can’t remem­ber which one ) and it was dele­ted. Lol. So much for pro­li­fe­ra­tion of dif­fe­rent opi­nions across the blo­gesphere eh?

    Mizzy Bohem : Yup I read that, and what more would we expect from one of the big­gest vio­la­tors of human rights on the pla­net. I mean Hu ( not Bush) in case your won­de­ring. Bush is a dis­grace and was pro­bably taking ins­truc­tion from Hu anyway.

    Stic­kler: The pro­blem with blogs is that peo­ple do not read them com­ple­tely. I never said one per­sons opi­non didn’t’ mat­ter. I said it “didn’t mat­ter much”. It cer­tainly doesn’t mat­ter much, in the case of this Duke debacle, that one per­son loves lac­rosse and has met some lovely lac­rosse pla­yers. Sure the guy is sad or angry that lac­rosse is being put on dis­play by this kind of noto­riety but it doesn’t really apply to the situa­tion at hand. It‘s great that he wrote it as a lot of peo­ple are out the defen­ding the sport and saying it is full of great peo­ple but there are just as many out there admit­ting that lac­rosse pla­yers espe­cially lac­rosse pla­yers at schools with the top pro­grams tend to be exactly as por­tra­yed by this group at Duke and by the media.

    Robot­man: have fun in Joi­sey. I bought you some of those shorty pants. If you don’t want them I’ll give them to doug.

  • Of course, I wore them. In fact, short-shorts are still a DAILY part of my wardrobe.

  • Hey, sorry I haven’t had time to com­ment in a while…looonnng story.

    Any­way, actually loved the balance you’re giving to lac­rosse in gene­ral. It’s a shame, really, that a few bad apples can almost ruin an entire sports’ reputation…er, ste­roids and base­ball, anyone?

    Lol…you should check out early bas­ket­bal uni­forms and the thank­fully long­dead trad. of posed por­traits with game balls…
    HERE

  • mojo: pic­tu­res??????????

    jason: i am ama­zed they allo­wed such clothing.…lol
    We all have lives Jason…we can’t always be around.…we can’t all swim with les­bians though…you are forgiven.

  • Some rea­sons why I love you: you don’t keep score; you laugh behind
    Doug’s back; you keep Dar­fur and Duke in our minds and concsience.

    And I just do. Lis­ten to your mother – about middle age