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Even If I Am Your Blow Job Queen

November 27th, 2005 by cooper

This post con­tains mate­rial that may be con­si­de­red objec­tio­na­ble to some. Please keep your little ones out, and don’t read it if words offend you.

This, because I recei­ved one of those well mea­ning but abso­lu­tely off tar­get emails recently, you know the ones that list fifty things you, as a woman, can do to pre­vent your­self from being raped. The email inc­lu­ded such things as do not walk alone in the dark, do not wear overly pro­vo­ca­tive clothing to the frat party you are atten­ding, do not have mul­ti­ple sexual part­ners… the list goes on see­mingly fore­ver. I’m sure most fema­les have got­ten one or two. Then I came upon various dis­cus­sions going on about the sub­ject, and lots of links  — which you should check out — much of it having to do with a recent Bri­tish study by Amnesty International.

This week during some down time, and over various food stuffs more con­ver­sa­tions (among friends) on this topic ensued. I ori­gi­nally was not going to post anything about this in my blog. I know you all do not want to be bum­med out, but for the record and my own piece of mind I thought I would state my opinion.

So, here is my take on this subject:

even if


Every time I see your face
I get all wet bet­ween my legs.
Every time you pass me by
I heave a sigh of pain

even if

I have done all of Green­wich Village, and half of So Ho, inc­lu­ding you, and I am wal­king down Blec­ker street after a having flaun­ted my sexua­lity freely all eve­ning in a local bar.

Every time I see your face
I think of things un-pure unchaste
I want to fuck you like a dog
I’ll take you home and make you like it

even if

I’m wea­ring only a thong, high heels and one of those demi — bras I am so fond of, wal­king along sin­ging Blow Job Queen. ( which by the way, if you haven’t read me in the past, was my favo­rite slee­po­ver song )

Everything you ever wan­ted
Everything you ever thought of is
Everything I’ll do to you
I’ll fuck you and your minions too

even if

I’ve par­ta­ken of a half pitcher of san­gria, am doing a belly dance, and thro­wing sug­ges­tive glan­ces your way

Your face reminds me of a flo­wer
Kind of like you’re under­wa­ter
Hair’s too long and in your eyes
Your lips a per­fect suck me size

and you come up to me and put your hands on me, I tell you to get your hands off of me, and you do not listen

You act like you’re four­teen years old
Everything you say is so
Obno­xious, funny, rude and mean
I want to be your blow-job queen

If you have sex with me when I say no, ( no mat­ter how loud or for­ce­ful the no appears not to be), when I am drunk, slee­ping, half slee­ping, …in this or any other situa­tion where true con­sent is ques­tio­na­ble.…. make no mis­take it is a sexual assault and

You’re pro­bably shy and intros­pec­tive
That’s not part of my objec­tive
I just want your fresh young jimmy
Jam­ming slam­ming ram­ming in me

..YOU ARE A RAPIST ASSHOLE.

even if
even if

Everything you ever wan­ted
Everything you ever thought of is
Everything I’ll do to you
I’ll fuck you til your dick is blue

because unless I con­sent it is rape, and after they cas­trate you you’ll go directly to jail without pas­sing go…you socio­path no excuse for a human being.

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82 Responses to “ Even If I Am Your Blow Job Queen

  1. Doughboy says:

    Could not agree with you more.
    Keep wri­ting
    Express yourself

  2. Leigh says:

    Ooooo…touchy sub­ject for me right now. My best friend was a vic­tim recently by someone we all knew. She was pretty drunk and half asleep, but he con­ti­nued after she said no. After she con­fron­ted him about it, he had the nerve to say “Well, I am totally bum­med that you’re mad at me still, I wish we could still be friends”. Dum­bass didn’t get it. If I see him out sur­fing I am totally gonna run him down!

  3. Wow… Alice… great post with no bullshit!

    I knew this girl when I was sta­tio­ned at Ft. Camp­bell… she had been sexual assaul­ted by 2 guys we all knew and loved… it was a horri­ble time for all of us! But… more so for her. She went over the deep end… and even­tually took her own life. No means No!!! I don’t care what the excuse is of why you raped her! Ya, bastards!

  4. This is a tough one…I’ve known way too many women (and men) who’ve been sexually assaul­ted, but once it hap­pens, it almost always beco­mes a mat­ter of he said/she said…unless the vic­tim goes to a hos­pi­tal, gets a rape kit done, and files a com­plaint. With drugs like ruhyp­nol and GHB, blood tests need to be done within a limi­ted time. Pres­sing char­ges is hard, but vic­tims need to do it to help get the limp-dicked SOBs off the streets.

    There is something to be said for taking per­so­nal res­pon­si­bi­lity regar­ding per­so­nal safety but that never jus­ti­fies the crime; I deal with stu­dents all the time who put them­sel­ves in extre­mely bad situa­tions and then won­der why bad things end up hap­pe­ning to them. The pro­tec­tion is sim­ple, most of the time…know your limits, never take a drink from a stran­ger, pour your own drinks at par­ties, and invest in a good taser or some pep­per spray.

    But all the pro­tec­tion in the world isn’t always enough. One never knows who a rapist is or could be. They look like ever­yone else. No does mean no, and for­get­ting, being too drunk, or wha­te­ver is never a defense when some­body cros­ses the line. Rape is a crime of vio­lence, not of sex. That last quote is idio­tic drivel.

  5. Bennet says:

    I…I..I don’t know.

    If dres­sing modest would work I say sure, but then late at night when I flip through TV cable chan­nels I see tons of women in those …Girls Gone Wild, Wild Party Girl video info­rer­cials expo­sing everything to the camera and I won­der wth don’t rapist hang out with those guys.…Obviously it’s working..

    I think there is a dou­ble stan­dard, but even that is chan­ging.
    With sex beco­ming less sac­red to both men, and women these days I have a hard time iden­tif­ying rape as an issue these days.

    Mixed sig­nals everywhere.

    My conc­lu­sion is that rapist are attrac­ted to the inse­cure shy women who cover up rather than those who give off a sense of carelessness.

    I’m not a roc­ket scien­tist but I do know things are cons­tantly chan­ging as the popu­la­tion con­ti­nues to expand many times over. Everything seems to beco­ming a cari­ca­ture of it’s blurry self.

  6. Bennet says:

    Oh…and when I say carelessness..I also mean con­fi­dence that gives off an “I don’t care addi­tude” which is con­fu­sing I know.….By I hope you unders­tand what I mean…They’re one in the same.

  7. There is never an excuse for rape… no jus­ti­fi­ca­tion for it PERIOD. It doesn’t mat­ter what a woman is wea­ring, if she is drunk, if she is alone, if she is shy, if she is out­going, if there are mixed sig­nals, if she says she wants it and then chan­ges her mind, … NO MEANS NO! Same would go for a man if he says no… or for a child if he/she says no.

    The defi­ni­tion of NO…used as a nega­tive reply, expres­sing denial, refu­sal or disagreement

    The defin­tion of RAPE… the crime of for­cing a per­son, espe­cially a woman, to have sexual inter­course against their will.

    They are one in the same…

  8. Dough­boy: thanks for stop­ping by. I chec­ked out your blog I be back.

    Leigh: it is often by someone you know and the whole atti­tude about it is what has to change.How awful for your friend.

    girl: it’s a shame it had to come to that. I thik most peo­ple know someone who this has hap­pe­ned to.

    zen­pro: there is nothing wrong with taking per­so­nal res­pon­si­bi­lity for your safety but in the case of rape one should not be pas­sing out lame ass let­ters to women all over the inter­net telling them to dress dif­fe­rently, act dif­fe­rently and stay in when it’s dark.It should not be the woman who has to pre­vent rape. That is the whole point. Rape when per­pe­tra­ted upon a women by a man is always the mans faulty no mat­ter what the women wears, where she was or what sig­nals she sent or he see­med to think she sent. No is no and sex when the other per­son is not able to con­sent is also a crime and no one should blame or insi­nuate that the woman deser­ved it for get­ting drunk or wha­te­ver. Nor should we allow for “men being men” because men like that are frankly ani­mals and criminals.

    Ben­net: I am pretty sure more guys are going to miss the point but it goes to figure. Mixed sig­nals? No such thing. If a girl dres­ses sexy and acts pro­va­ca­ti­vely it does not mean she want to fuck you and it should not be assu­med she does. Of course there is a dou­ble stan­dard and although it may have chan­ged some over the last fifty years it has chan­ged no where near to where it should be. If it were so there would be no more sug­ges­ting to women that to pre­vent rape they should dress dif­fe­rently and act dif­fe­rently because it would not mat­ter. Believe me it is an issue as unre­por­ted rape hap­pens all the time on college cam­pu­ses, high schools, and I am sure in pri­vate homes among hus­bands and wives.
    There should be no rea­son for women to have to dress a cer­tain way to pre­vent something that should not be hap­pe­ning anyway.

  9. That is inte­res­ting Ben­net, but the rapes I am tal­king about are actually more often than not per­pe­tra­ted by peo­ple one knows or are in close con­tact with all the time. Not the ones done by a crazy psycho­tic out on the street. The basic safety les­sons on that blog are really the basic les­sons one that lives in the city or on a large cam­pus prac­tice daily to pre­vent any kind of moles­ta­tion or phy­si­cal attack and does not neces­sa­rily speak to the issue.

  10. Girl: I think we were spaz­zing out at the same time.

    Ben­net: Are you sure you didn’t tell me you were a roc­ket scientist?????

  11. jake says:

    The song works per­fectly into what you are trying to say. I admit we have had some dis­cus­sion on this here at school and the dis­cus­sion is at times heated.

    I agree men still have an atti­tude of ” if she dres­ses like she wants it she deser­ves it” and there are lot of peo­ple that take advan­tage of girls in drun­ken sta­tes as well.
    It is a pro­blem still and the atti­tude would bother me if I were a women.

  12. Coyote Mike says:

    I totally agree, par­ti­cu­larly with cas­tra­ting rapists. Howe­ver, let me put a situa­tion for­ward that actually hap­pe­ned to a friend of mine recently.

    A girl meets a friend of her room­mate, who will be sta­ying for the wee­kend with the room­mate. They all go out and get drunk and come home and the girl and the friend start to make out. The girl takes the friend to her room, gives him oral sex, and recie­ves oral from him. That was all they did before going back to sepe­rate rooms for a night of drun­ken sno­ring. The next day, she tells her boy­friend she has chea­ted on him, and he calls the police and has the friend arres­ted for sexual assault.

    No, the cops did not charge the friend, but the girl and the room­mate are no lon­ger roommates.

  13. I have trou­ble iden­tif­ying rape as an issue

    What the fuck?

    Don’t get me wrong, I could talk for hours about mixed sig­nals, but that shit doesn’t belong here.

    If someone does say “no” when they don’t mean it, that’s their pro­blem. Mixed sig­nals should only result in con­sen­sual sex not hap­pe­ning when it could have.

  14. MJ says:

    Very good topic to bring up Alice.

    No is no is no is no.

    Rape is a vio­lent crime and sadly more often than not, women are bla­med or never belie­ved. There is an extreme dou­ble stan­dard for women and their sexua­lity altogether.

  15. averagebusinessman says:

    Inter­la­cing those song lyrics in your post is actually pretty bri­lliant and exem­pli­fies the mea­ning of your post.

    No is no, there is no but, and there are no even if’s.

    Mixed sig­nals come under something else and do not have anything to do with rape as they are not a rea­son for rape.

    I unders­tand what ben­net was saying, mixed sig­nals can be frus­tra­ting, but they are not an excuse or rea­son for non con­sen­sual sex.

    Great slap in the face for my mid­night read.

  16. don’t know why my link did not come up.

  17. mojo shivers says:

    As the ex-boyfriend of someone who was sexually assaul­ted, rest assu­red I agree with you, Miss Coo­per, when it comes to men being the assho­les in the situa­tion. The whole argu­ment of women dres­sing pro­vo­ca­ti­vely to entice men as jus­ti­fi­ca­tion for rape makes as much sense as an Esca­lade with its keys in the igni­tion and no one atten­ding being jus­ti­fi­ca­tion for grand theft auto.

    Wrong is wrong, and telling one­self she wan­ted it is something one says when one feels guilty and not when she actually wan­ted it.

  18. Graham says:

    I don’t think it’s a com­pli­ca­ted sub­ject. It’s as sim­ple as you say Alice. No miti­ga­ting cir­cums­tan­ces, no excu­ses, rea­sons, or con­tri­bu­ting factors.

    Nothing chan­ges rape, and just because a woman expres­ses her­self sexually does not mean that men are sud­denly depri­ved of their res­pon­si­bi­lity for their actions.

    It’s usually the refrain of peo­ple who are threa­te­ned by women being sexual and com­for­ta­ble with their sexua­lity in the modern world, usually sexually inti­mi­da­ted men, who asc­ribe something stu­pid like this to wea­ring pro­vo­ca­tive clothing, or enga­ging in pro­mis­cuous behavior.

    Great post. And don’t ever let a dumn fuck influence how you want to express yourself.

  19. Miz BoheMia says:

    A very high per­cen­tage of rapes are “acquain­tance rapes” mea­ning that the rapist knows the vic­tim and viceversa.

    Ben­net, there is nothing ambi­guous about it. The chick could be giving you a blow job for all I care and then change her mind and not want to do anything else and you have to lay off. She could even have star­ted something, mea­ning pene­tra­tion my friend, change her mind in the middle of it all, say stop, and you would have to stop. You can think her a bitch, call her what you will but bot­tom line…

    NO MEANS NO.

    As to how a woman dres­ses, acts, speaks, walks, etc.… I say that those CANNOT and SHOULD NOT ever be used as “rea­sons” why a woman may have been raped. Put the focus where it belongs… on the sick fuck who is out there get­ting off on the pain he inflicts on his vic­tims whose lives he fucks up forever.

    It is a black and white issue. A woman should do wha­te­ver the fuck she wants and not be raped. Period. No ambi­guity there my friend!

    Alice~ Great post! Keep ‘em coming and don’t apo­lo­gize for expres­sing your­self. Those who can’t handle it have no place being here in the first place. You have touched a very sen­si­tive but­ton here with me! You are the ins­pi­ra­tion behind my next post. For­give me for I shall copy your topic!

    Oh! You once said you liked my tem­plate. Yours ins­pi­red me to pick that one. I liked the dimen­sion that loo­king out the car into another world gives your tem­plate. You have two worlds in one. And the black being pre­va­lent gives it a more inti­mate and soli­tary feel. Basi­cally, lovin’ it girl!

  20. protagoras says:

    This post has been remo­ved by the author.

  21. Hmmm…good points again, Alice. Hope I didn’t imply that I agree with the whole “she asked for it” rub­bish. In the end, rape is not a women’s issue or a men’s issue; it needs to be dealt with by society as a whole. There pro­bably are some underl­ying cul­tu­ral things in the West that need to be addres­sed with rape. Not just per­cep­tions of rape, but how they’re approached. I’ve met just as many women who buy into that “boys will be boys” or “she asked for it” b.s. as I have guys.

    Coyote Mike:
    Damn, talk about flash­backs. I was an ex-boyfriend who had his girl­friend accuse another per­son of sexual assault. I belie­ved her, until I dis­co­ve­red this sup­po­sed rapist was two sta­tes away when the rape sup­po­sedly hap­pe­ned. I felt torn apart inside; my girl­friend was saying she was raped, but everything was just so fishy and I felt like an ass for doub­ting her story. Nothing added up — not the time­line, not the sce­na­rio, not even the events lea­ding up to the assault. Yet she pro­cee­ded to tell ever­yone — but the cops — about how he had assaul­ted her. That, and other things, led to the ending of our rela­tionship (she accu­sed this guy of rape because she was afraid I’d find out she’d been chea­ting on me, accor­ding to her best friend, who got her to ‘fess up, and didn’t like the guy any­way.) What does a society do with peo­ple who make up sexual assaults? It harms the cre­di­bi­lity of those who are really vic­tims, harms the case for stif­fer penal­ties, and it harms a lot more inno­cent people.

  22. pia says:

    Hey Alice I was raped in high school in the village. Wasnt’ even dres­sed immo­destly – knew him.

    I was lucky – didn’t affect my sense of self or sexua­lity — met my off and on college boy­friend soon after

    You know my John Gotti story – Lucia still claims I was his wet dream when he was in

    Once in Cen­tral Park a man on a bike flip­ped my bus­tier dress down

    I know I was dres­sed immo­destly most of my late teens 20’s and 30’s – had a sur­vi­vor ins­tinct that stop­ped bad things usually – was never raped again

    as for girls who make sto­ries up, they deserve something because girls should dress how they want to, and should feel secure.

    males are more to blame — but that’s a whole the­sis, and I clic­ked all the but­tons so I com­men­ted on the old parents one, and still haven’t had coffee

    Thought you would be the only one to really get my post though I thought it was pretty explcit

  23. Anonymous says:

    That’s a dis­gus­ting song, it’s no won­der there are rapes on college cam­pu­ses with girls having that attitude.

  24. robotman says:

    Pathe­ti­cally inac­cu­rate com­ment. Obviously too obtuse to unders­tand the point of the post.

    Point well taken the “even if’s” go without saying.

    I’d write more but I just got in and I have class and am reco­ve­ring from a long drive.

    This is pro­gres­sing nicely.

  25. Doug says:

    I have a hard time with sin­cere com­ments. No woman is com­pli­cit in rape, but any guy who doesn’t wait for yes wasn’t rai­sed decently. Impri­son the parents too.

  26. SeizeTheNite says:

    A great post with some things that really nee­ded to be said, count on Alice to do it.

    I like this best: “But it?s the men who are attac­king the women. If there?s to be a cur­few, let the men stay at home, not the women”.

    Amen Golda.

  27. Sar says:

    Alice, you beat me to my com­ment when you said “There should be no rea­son for women to have to dress a cer­tain way to pre­vent something that should not be hap­pe­ning anyway.”

    Great post.

  28. Jay says:

    I agree. Rape is rape. Perhaps there are some things one can do to les­sen the chance of falling prey to any type of predetor…but it is the rapist that is com­mi­ting the assault.

  29. “That’s a dis­gus­ting song, it’s no won­der there are rapes on college cam­pu­ses with girls having that attitude.”

    To sign your name anony­mous is a cowards way out… if you are going to have the balls to com­ment… sign your name…

    Alice… you got your point across… and it was a damn good one!

  30. jake: thanks jake but it should also bother you as a man.

    coyote: I think that is a totally dif­fe­rent thing and of course the wise thing for the boy­friend to do woul d have been to dump her and get a tes­ted for STD’s.

    wom­bat: right, mixed sig­nal have nothing to do with it, that is a whole dif­fe­rent discussion.

    mj: exactly, a women is a slut and a man is a stud– go figure. I’m so glad to see you still around mj.

    biz­man: I agree as noted about the mixed sig­nals. Ah the mid­night read.

    mojo:righ on mo jo. the pre­ve­lent socie­tal atti­tu­des are just skewed.

    graham:My fee­ling exactly.

    miz bohem: thanks and it is a topic that needs proliferation.

    Dele­ted com­ment: I do still get them in my email . Said he wasn’t my father so he wasn’t going to call me righ­teous and naive. You didn’t really have to delete it it didn’t hurt my fee­lings or anything.

    Zen­pro: I have also meant many women with the same atti­tude and frankly that is part of the problem.

    coyote: that too is a whole other sub­ject but let us not con­fuse the tow issues and the fact that one occurs does not is any way les­son the fact that when it hap­pens, and it hap­pens often, it is a cri­mi­nal act and not jus­ti­fia­ble in any way.

    pia: that is awful for you but obviously( not said flip­pantly) you pro­bably always had the self esteem and sense of self to know that it was not your fualt and not to fall apart after being vio­la­ted. I would love to make some com­ments about­beibg some guys wet dream but i’ll save that for another time but that is why I don’t wear bus­tiers to Cen­tral park– or any other place for that mat­ter. lol

    males are soley to blame.

    I find hat some­ti­mes peo­ple do not get anything no mat­ter how clear you think you make it. I think in rea­lity a lot of peo­ple are just really stupid.

    no one here of course.

    anony: It’s a great song and if a song can cause rape we have more pro­blems than we thought.

    robot­man: obviously obtuse and of course you would understand.

    Doug: of course you do but you did com­ment so I give you ten points and a big hug.

    seize: it was a per­fect quote from an awe­some indi­vi­dual who had it right.

    Sar: thanks.

    jay: you are right rape is rape no mat­ter. You can take per­cau­tions to pro­tect your home, lots of per­cau­tions but if you don’t ins­tall that alarm, put in those lights that go on and off auto­ma­ti­cally, get a large pit bull.…the per­son who robs you is still a cri­mi­nal– there is no doubt as to that. It is the same way with rape only it is not loo­ked at that way.

    girl: thanks.

  31. --josh-- says:

    1. When I was sin­gle, I was ama­zed at how often I would be rolling and touss­ling with a woman, and she would say something like, “no,” or “stop,” or “we shouldn’t,” and so I’d pull back, take a deep breath, and chill out… and my date would look at me like I was some kind of idiot. She: “Why’d ya stop for?” Me: “Uh, well, you said to.” She (con­tempt for my stu­pi­dity appa­rent): “You’re sup­po­sed to be able to read the subtle and nuan­ced sig­nals. Some­ti­mes when a girl says no, she really means yes.”

    I agree with the com­ment that the worst out­come here ought to be mis­sed oppor­tu­ni­ties for con­sen­sual sex; I per­so­nally mis­sed a lot of it. Maybe even more than I had.

    But it is a slip­pery slope. There, I said it.

    I have no sym­pathy for rapists. Rape is vio­lent assault, and no one “asks for” vio­lent assault (assai­lant stu­pi­dity isa dif­fe­rent from vic­tim com­pli­city.) But ladies, please remem­ber that we are men. When it comes to subt­lety and com­ple­xity and nuance, we are like the dog when you pre­tend to throw the ten­nis ball. In a million years, we won’t get it. No has to mean no all the time. Other­wise we’re hope­lessly con­fu­sed, and that can’t be good.

    Men and women are in this thing together. Guys are taught early onthat no means no. The nice boys who believe this and behave accor­dingly should be encou­ra­ged, not made to feel like sissy boy saps. So when one of us does behave in the fashion I desc­ribe above, toss him a sym­pathy fuck every once in a while. Give the nice boy a break. It would go a long way for all con­cer­ned in the eter­nal battle of the sexes.

    2. I think that song is “Flo­wer,” not “Blow Job Queen.”

  32. Chris Sapp says:

    looks like I am late as usual and everything that needs to be said has been said. UMmmmm…I guess I will just agree with all the smart peo­ple here who are most likely feme­nists and intelligent-things I can’t say for a rapist. If there were more Lorena Bob­bits in the world maybe there would be less rape. Cer­tain cri­mes need penal­ties that although cruel, would deter the crime. Now I don’t think stea­ling deser­ves an arm cut off, but raping deser­ves a man’s gene­tai­lia muta­la­ted and vice versa for women, although you don’t hear much about women raping men. Cause women are smart. Men are dumb and easy to seduce and usually never say no-this is coming from a man-so trust me-its just how we think. I am happy there are laws in place that point out child moles­ters and rapists in the com­mu­nity so you can know who your neigh­bors are, but truth be told it is usually a friend that does it. Peo­ple in gene­ral need to be more up front about set­ting boun­da­ries such as “JUST FRIENDS PERIOD” in the begin­ning but it will never hap­pen. It’s not a com­for­te­ra­ble con­ver­sa­tion to have. If any of this doesn’t make sence-then I’m just too tired to be wri­ting and too bad! Thanks for brin­ging up an impor­tant topic and the lyrics were interesting-explains why I don’t like rap much.

  33. Josh: there is no slip­pery slope, it’s pro­bably wise if you’re with somene who says no a lot and sup­po­sedly means yes to dump her as she is appa­rently a game pla­yer and the games never end.

    The songs ori­gi­nal name was Blow Job Queen they chan­ged it when they put out the CD or the second run of the CD or something like that.

    Chris: Thanks for the comm­ments. Women raping men…um truth­fully it really can’t hap­pen in the same way.
    Not to pick on you but this is part of the point…and is worth men­tio­ning.…
    It’s a folk’rock song not a rap song… this is funny only because the pre­sump­tion about a song that has such lan­guage like that is that it is from a rap­per when in fact it is song an writ­ten and sung by a white female Ober­lin College class of 89 graduate.

  34. Also I rea­li­zed I offen­ded a lot of peo­ple by pos­ting that song, at least by the emails I recie­ved and I would say I’m sorry but frankly I’m not so think what you will.

  35. Doughboy says:

    “There should be no rea­son for women to have to dress a cer­tain way to pre­vent something that should not be hap­pe­ning any­way.“
    That is a great quote.
    The way you dress is in no way the deter­mi­na­tion of your cha­rac­tor.
    I dress dif­fe­rently each and every day, and I watch how peo­ples eyes tar­get me. Those peo­ple are sha­llow to say the best of them.
    I used to care what “they” thought, now I know that “they” did not know me at all. So your pes­pec­tive on rape is one that I agree with, Alice and ever­yone else, those who do not agree with us are sha­llow peo­ple. I wish I had the con­fi­dence, like you have, to actually say what I feel. That seems like a long way away to me. So, for now I can’t, I hide it well.
    I just wear black, ’cause “they” don’t know what that means to me.

  36. transience says:

    brava on your treat­ment of what still remains a grossly unde­res­ti­ma­ted issue. i think ever­yone else gave such bri­lliant com­men­tary (that’s what i get for cloc­king in late) that to type down my ori­gi­nal thoughts would be redun­dant. howe­ver, i just have to say that coming from a catho­lic country, a lot of the blame is still pla­ced on the woman. if she was dres­sed in a way that flaun­ted her sexua­lity, she pro­bably deser­ved it. and if they found out she wasn’t a vir­gin, well, must be god wor­king in mys­te­rious ways. i mean, what the fuck? explains my dis­tate for how the reli­gion is prac­ti­ced where i am.

  37. weirsdo says:

    Let’s see. Ober­lin, 89. I never heard of this song, but is that Liz Fair (am I spe­lling that right)? I didn’t know her, but my boy­friend from there did.
    I have to mildly disa­gree about the idio­tic dri­vel. I don’t believe rape is ever the victim’s fault, and of course it would be nice to live in an ideal world where rapes didn’t occur, but if a minor beha­vior change is pro­ven to pre­vent rapes to any degree, wouldn’t it make sense to adopt it? Of course, I’m not sure what the evi­dence on this is: does modest clothing really dis­cou­rage rape? But I and seve­ral friends did agree that cer­tain shirts see­med to encou­rage grab­bers more than others.…
    Other beha­vior chan­ges seem to me to make even more sense and not punish women at all. If one is not sure whether or not a guy is a poten­tial rapist, isn’t it wiser to avoid invi­ting him into a pri­vate area and keep everything out in the open? Who suf­fers from this? Only rapists, as far as I can tell.
    Again, that is NOT to say that women who invite men in are “asking for it.”

  38. pia says:

    gawd girl, you do get comments.

    Have a Bring it on post loo­sely based on one of your links -;)

  39. Anonymous says:

    “Only rapists suf­fer from rape?“
    idio­tic dri­vel
    The raped suf­fer and not the rapist.……
    Truth hurts.….
    “Man… some peo­ple“
    Are not as smart as they type.

  40. Anonymous says:

    Weirsdo, I guess luring a girl into a pri­vate area is OK with you, since then only the rapist would suffer?

  41. dough­boy: care what you think, that usually always works best.

    tran: bet­ter late than never I say.:)
    I have bri­lliant commenters.

    and then there is the good old usa where things are pretty much the same as they are in your country; we just hide it better.

    weirdso: yes liz phair.

    I just dia­gree in gene­ral that a women should have to do anything to miti­gate cir­cums­tan­ces surroun­ding something that is clearly a vio­la­tion and illegal.

    I would seriously like to see the sta­tis­tics on con­vic­tions and sen­ten­cing for sodomy per­pe­tra­ted on a male hete­ro­se­xual. I bet the con­vic­tions are much higher than for rape and the sen­ten­cing is harsher.

    The idio­tic dri­vel I was refe­rring to was the part of the com­ment Rape is an appa­lling crime, but we need to rea­lize the basic ins­tinct on the man�s part that dri­ves them to com­mit such an act. If that is a pre­va­lent atti­tude it si the good old boy net­work still alive and well and kee­ping women in their place. I’m afraid we are stuck in a time warp.

    pia: oh which one? I do get com­ments on some things and the com­men­ter are awe­some, bri­lliant people.

    Anony­mous: i think you mis­read her comment.

  42. mojo shivers says:

    Com­ple­tely off-subject but I just rea­li­zed the rea­son I hadn’t seen you in AIM was I had miss­pe­lled your screen name, Miss Cooper.

    Who knew there was a “b” in your sn? lol

  43. Dark Khaos says:

    I’m not usually a com­men­ter, but this deser­ves one. Your post is frank, and too the point, and we need more of that, and your disc­lai­mer should read “You will be offe­ned”. The sub­ject of rape is OFFENSIVE, their is no easy way to just kick up a rape dis­cus­sion. I com­mend you for doing this, and I think every woman should toss this out there every once and a while, and make men squirm. Because if they don’t squirm their is a pro­blem! This sub­ject should stir emo­tions so deep that it is visi­ble to anyone in the vici­nity. There are NO syman­tics when rape is invol­ved, No is a sim­ple word with a sim­ple mea­ning. Hear it for what it is.

  44. Chris Sapp says:

    I will be sure to look for that song if it’s a Liz Phair song. Sad­ness and apo­lo­gies for anyone I offen­ded by assu­ming it was a rap song. Assu­ming, it makes an ass out of U and Me. Well off to work. Hope you get tons more com­ments on this very impor­tant issue.

  45. Chris Sapp says:

    Just had to say I am an idiot-I have that song-Maybe I need to stop and lis­ten a little more-In fair­ness I just down­loa­ded it last week and haven’t lis­te­ned to it yet but Jesus. I supose I am the idiot of the day.

  46. A joke? Oh my, keep rea­ding dear, there’s so much to be told…
    …so much
    BTW– I only stop­ped in to leave a com­ment, but ended up rea­ding a sig­ni­fi­cant chunk of your recent entries. You must be doing something right.

  47. Reli­gion is the most pre­va­lent source of misogyny in our cul­ture. We Ame­ri­cans live in a nation foun­ded by Puri­tans and we have yet to shuf­fle off their bullshit. From John Winth­rop to Pat fuc­king Rober­tson. It should be noted also that there is perhaps one pro­mi­nent woman cast in a posi­tive light in the Chris­tian texts: the vir­gin Mary. And then there’s the issue of sym­bo­logy, where just every ancient or pagan sym­bol that stood for sexua­lity, or more to the point femi­ni­nity, has been incor­po­ra­ted into the Chris­tian myth of Satan.

    Josh, I agreed with you until you said slip­pery slope. That men­ta­lity is utter bullshit in just about every ins­tance that it is emplo­yed, and sel­dom more gla­ringly than here. There is always a line that a decent per­son will not cross.

    As far as women raping men, yes it’s pretty much impos­si­ble for it to hap­pen in the same bio­lo­gi­cal sense but its not impos­si­ble when you con­si­der some of the other things that cons­ti­tute rape. I could go into detail, but I don’t really think that has a place here, so I won’t unless I have to. More to the point is that for the most part they don’t, even if they are able.

  48. Mojo: Maybe, but I’m not on all that often any more as it tends to be dis­trac­ting when I am sup­po­sed to be wri­ting papers or wha­te­ver.
    Any­way I knew there was a B in my scream name. :)

    Dark Khaos: thanks for stop­ping by and com­men­ting. I knew it would be a pretty squirmy sub­ject but most of the peo­ple that com­ment here rou­ti­nely are no afraid to squirm…it’s the rest of the world I am worried about.

    Chris: Chris the fact that you came back and pos­ted that says volu­mes… no idiot there.
    The song was pos­ted to make a point in the most crea­tive way I could think of at the time. The point being that even if I was a blow job queen and even if I thought that way-which women obviously do as that song sold quite hea­vily back in the day and women bought it– it doesn’t mat­ter. The fact that taht song also tends to make many men uncom­for­ta­ble in a ” decent women don’t think like that ” way is also pretty telling.

    Ches­ter: I will, lol
    I do many things right, and many things wrong as I like variety.

    Wom­bat: I will let you take over as I have to go to class. Thank you for your ela­bo­ra­tive commentary. :)

  49. John M says:

    Way to go coop.

    I am proud to have gone to high school with you and will live vica­riously through wha­te­ver suc­cess comes your way in life. I will also be willing to post bail if it comes to it.

    We�ve dis­cus­sed this before, and simi­lar to Dar­fur where rape is used as a wea­pon of war and proof of power, this goes to show that in this country men still have more power than should be allot­ted to them when one con­si­ders tech­no­lo­gi­cal as well as other his­to­ric advances.

    Not to make light of this, but to bring a little levity into a rather som­ber dis­cus­sion;
    I ima­gine there has been an inc­rease, although pro­bably slight, of the down­loa­ding of that song.